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Matfield’s greatest Springbok of all time

Started by Mozart24 REPLIES138 VIEWS· 31 Aug 2026, 16:48
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Mozart
MozartCoach50,398 posts
31 Aug 2026, 16:48
#1
31 Aug 2026, 16:48#1

Eben Etzebeth…..backed up by his 144 test caps. And being a lock Victor, one of the greatest himself, is in a position to judge. The pace he showed down the wing last week, his strength evident in every tackle and his lineout prowess, dominating the front of the lineout, all huge. And his presence when he steps on the field, the one guy you don’t mess around with….take him out of this Springbok team and things become much less certain.

‘ Former South Africa captain Victor Matfield has hailed Eben Etzebeth as “probably the best Springbok of all time” after the veteran lock produced a towering response to the pressure surrounding his form in Saturday’s series-levelling 33-26 victory over the All Blacks in Cape Town’

DbDraad
DbDraadCaptain26,882 posts
31 Aug 2026, 19:25
#2
31 Aug 2026, 19:25#2

I agree 100% hard to really think of anyone else coming close.

Plum
PlumCaptain21,810 posts
31 Aug 2026, 19:38
#3
31 Aug 2026, 19:38#3

How he has that many caps and is still playing like he has the last two weekends is beyond belief.

You compare that to guys like Lood and RG who it feels like have spent most of their careers injured.

The man is super human

Pakie
PakieCaptain18,100 posts
31 Aug 2026, 19:47
#4
31 Aug 2026, 19:47#4

We're going to feel it when guys like Eben, Marx and Kolbe hang up their boots. For PSDT their are a few heirs apparent in guys like Ruan Venter and Cam (I guess Ruan can do 4 but I'd rather see him at 7) who may even be better versions, but an oke like Marx will leave a dent.

Plum
Captain21,810 posts
Plum31 Aug 2026, 18:32

Fully agree. For me, he's been the best hooker in the world for about 8 years now, probably more.

Plum
Captain21,810 posts
Plum31 Aug 2026, 18:42

Also, man, up to that Leinster game, I was having visions of Ruan running at these Kiwis right about now.

Imagine sitting at home, watching these games and knowing you should be on that field and the world should be learning your name.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,878 posts
31 Aug 2026, 19:57
#5
31 Aug 2026, 19:57#5

Have to agree - he is irreplaceable

We are long overdue a new Eben or something close coming through

What’s really frustrating is that the two big physical school boy locks that have recently emerged have both been snapped up by French clubs

Travesty

Mozart
Coach50,398 posts
Mozart31 Aug 2026, 21:03

His kindly manner?

BE
Pro4,436 posts
becs31 Aug 2026, 21:47

@Mozart I’ll take your word for it 😂

bobbok
bobbokCaptain10,488 posts
31 Aug 2026, 23:06
#6
31 Aug 2026, 23:06#6

That enforced break was a tonic.

DE
DennyCaptain13,118 posts
01 Sept 2026, 07:23
#7
01 Sept 2026, 07:23#7

There is no doubt that.Etzebeth is an all time great but what about Kolbe, the most talented, skilled and versatile player ever. He fits into any role with the greatest of ease, he is my greatest all time player.

bobbok
Captain10,488 posts
bobbok01 Sept 2026, 06:10

EE started his career onna wing ... Kolbe unsurprisingly gave lineouts mindraad, but I'm meandering ... I go for 2 awards, forward & back & they'll both walk away winners.

Plum
Captain21,810 posts
Plum01 Sept 2026, 06:21

@bobbok you're very sensible when you're not talking about politics, Blob

DE
Captain13,118 posts
Denny01 Sept 2026, 22:57

@bobbok Perhaps we should say that ET(Extraterrestrial) is the greatest forward ever and that Kolbe is the greatest back ever?

Rooinek
RooinekCaptain18,687 posts
01 Sept 2026, 08:09
#8
01 Sept 2026, 08:09#8

It all depends on how far back you go. The likes of Danie Gerber, Frik du Preez, Hennie Muller, Boy Louw and Danie Craven should not be so quickly forgotten. All of those would be in my "all-time" list.

If we're limiting it to the modern era, my candidates would be Beast Mtawarira, Andre Venter, Bryan Habana, Cheslin Kolbe and Malcolm Marx. Guys like PSdT, Joost van der Westhuizen, Eben and Matfield not far behind.

My favourite player (note, not the greatest) remains Henry Honiball, with Sacha closing in.

Plum
Captain21,810 posts
Plum01 Sept 2026, 06:20

"...with Sacha closing in"

That's a proper punt. I think that by the time Sacha gets to thirty years old there's a very high likelihood that it'll be undeniable.

Rooinek
Captain18,687 posts
Rooinek01 Sept 2026, 06:41

@Plum Sounds like you're still confusing "greatest" with "favourite".

Plum
Captain21,810 posts
Plum01 Sept 2026, 07:42

@Rooinek true, I tend to read posts a little too quickly

Mozart
MozartCoach50,398 posts
01 Sept 2026, 15:37
#9
01 Sept 2026, 15:37#9

Danie Gerber, Kolbe and Etzebeth are the clear ‘best in the world’ players we have had…perhaps Hennie Muller in 1949 and Dai Williams in 1938. When I saw Williams play at Newlands one couldn’t but be impressed with the power that went along with the pace.

Rooinek
Captain18,687 posts
Rooinek01 Sept 2026, 14:19

Out of interest, how old were you when you saw Dai Williams play, Moz? How old were you in 1938?

Mozart
Coach50,398 posts
Mozart01 Sept 2026, 18:10

Minus 9…just a little humor about my advanced years. It’s so absurd getting old, one can but laugh and take one more club. But I have seen clips of the great Dai, impressive.

bobbok
Captain10,488 posts
bobbok02 Sept 2026, 00:02

Hope its not too many, 'take one more Mac' ... ouMoz

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