Well CC given how fucking rugby ignorant you are.....you are hardly the measure now are you?
Do you honestly think I value your rugby inputs, seriously?
I like your Donald Trump ways, but rugby is not a strength of yours
Only 42 players in Dawie's squad?
Actually its 43, I forgot Whitely
Play 6 tests, why not have a large squad rewarding all the worthy players.....simple really
All we need to do is sack useless Coetzee and get Ackerman and Swys on board and the All Blacks would be ours
Ah yeah Kriel the failure at 13 that ripped the likes of Nonu and Smith apart last year in the RC alongside de Allende and then went on to make more clean breaks than any other centre in the WC.....yeah that will be the failure you are talking about.....its ignorance like that, that makes me laugh at you.....along with selections like Boshoff as the Bok 10........give me strength
I'm yet to see all these Coenie penalties, last game I saw, I saw Coenie dominating the Highlanders loosehead in a game the Sharks got thumped in.
My list has the best players in SA and abroad on there.....something you know stuff all about......the only thing I see from you is pathetic rugby ignorance and a bias towards every Lions player......in your eyes Brink is better than Carr, Notshe and Arno Botha no doubt.
I wish I could remember all those laughable Bok selections you put up some time ago......the one where you had Boshoff as the Bok 10......that was one of many laughable calls
Well Saders fan, that list comprises a whole lot of players that thrashed your Saders side last week
.....shows how much you know, doesn't it?Stick to tennis bud!!
Saffex you are a lunatic if you think Willie is the answer at fullback.
Dave some assistance. I will cross out the duds and you can have a second chance. I am only fealing with the more extreme cases.
Fullback: Willie
Wings: Ulengo / Combrink / Ismeil / Sergeal Petersen / Skosan
Centres: de Allende / Jessie Kriel / Janse v/Rensburg / Mapoe / Frans Venter
Flyhalves: Jantjies / Lambie / Goosen
Scrumhalves: Faf / Groom / Piet v/Zyl
Props: Marcel v/d Merwe / Koch / Coenie / Kitshoff / Nyakane / Thomas du Toit / Redelinghuis/BEAST
Hookers: Bismark / Strauss / Marx/AKKERS
Locks: Etzebeth / Lood / PSDT / Willemse / RG Snyman
Loosies: Jaco Kriel / Jacques du Plessis / Kirsten / Mostert / Carr / Notshe / Arno Botha / Vermeulen / du Preez x 2 / Whiteley
Out injured: Coetzee, Malherbe, Serfontein, Reinach, Pollard, Kolisi, Vorster & Gelant
7's duty - , Senatla and Hougaard Kolbe
Wee willie hasn't had a decent game in ages. His kicking is a real liability & his defence is very poor. Picking him for the Boks is ludicrous. I would have Kriel or the wee Lamb there over him.
Can't really see what the fuss is about Ulenga....why is he better than your former man Jacobus van
Wyk.
Can't really see what the fuss is about Ulenga....why is he better than your former man Jacobus van
Wyk.
Can't really see what the fuss is about Ulenga....why is he better than your former man Jacobus van
Wyk.
It would be good to see what Sergeal Pieterson could do with at the Lions or getting a test cap
The squad will normally consists of 30 players reduced to 26 playes when playing away matches. With that size squad - I would say the following:-
Fullbacks - Le Roux
, Goosen
Wjngs - Combrinck, Pietersen, Ismaiel
Centers - De Allende, Van Rensburg, Mapoe
Flyhalfs - Lambie, Jantjies
Scrummies - De Klerk, Cronje, Paige
Loosies - Kriel, Whiteley, Vermeulen, Notshe, Tecklenberg, Labuschagne
Locks - Etzebeth, Du Toit, Snyman
Props _ Mtawarira, Kitshoff, Smith
Redelinghuys, Nyakane, Koch
Hookers - Marx, Du Plessis, Marullulle, Strauss
I would not myself include Strauss, but Coetzee stupidly made him captain for the current year.
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What the blue blazes makes you include Liggies when he couldn't even crack the A team first time out.
Dave,
Mozart -because he is a loosie - something you do not understand about Rugby. Ball protection and recovery is a far as you are concerned not important according to your nonsensical comments on this site.
Mozart -because he is a loosie - something you do not understand about Rugby. Ball protection and recovery is a far as you are concerned not important according to your nonsensical comments on this site.
CC
You are 100% correct about the quota issue. Where I hesitated I did add some selections based on quotas and that accounts for Mtawarire, Nyakane, JP Pietersen and Paige. They in fact should not be anywhere near the squad.
Neither should be some other players like for instance Strauss. Vermeulen has been sub-par insofar as performance is concerned - both for his club and for the Springboks - but he has still potential to perform and should be given another chance.
I will have no problem in replacing JP Pietersen with Sergeal Petersen. Ulengo worries me – he is a strong ball carrier, but a liability under high balls.
May I add - I never wrote off De Allende - he has shown improvement recently - and my center combination would be De Allende and Van Rensburg - which may change when Harold Vorster comes back. The latter is in fact in my opinion
a better 13 than a 12.
There is not a snowballs hope in hell that the village idiot we have as a coach will make the selections as indicated by me above - but those selections are what I believe would be the best we can do
Here's the point Tokkie....follow the bouncing ball. You include Paige Beast, JP because of quota realities.....which means you are selecting a likely team, not your team. So I ask you again, not in the expectation of one iota of intelligence in your response......why is Liggies in there when he can't even make the SA A team?
Mozart
I prefer Labuschagne ahead of clumsy baby elephants like Alberts and some of the locks you want in that position as loosies - especially since he has ball sense - an exceptional work rate - contribute positively to comprehensive rugby - contribute in a major way to ball protection and recovery.
The fact that Coezee selected quota players as loosies is about on par with Meyer’s selection of non-productive reputation players. Are you saying that Coetzee selection is based on performance – then you must be kidding yourself. In your case it would be nothing new because that was your attitude in the case of Meyer..
I believe that we have a problem in certain positions. When players are basically on par - then I would give preference to quota selections.
Tokkie it's quite simple. You say Strauss shouldn't be in the team....but you select him because that's the reality of the selection process.......and then you select Liggies who is so far out of the selection process he can't even make the A team.
You apparently are still believing in BS selections. I don't fall for that kind of crap. I look at actual performance over a period. My tem does not need cleaning up and you cannot
force me to do so.
This is a more accurate squad
Fullback: Combrink/ Willie (Or willie can go on the wing), Jessie Kriel
Wings: Ulengo / / Ismeil / Sergeal Petersen / Skosan/
Centres: de Allende / Jessie Kriel / Janse v/Rensburg / Mapoe / Frans Venter
Flyhalves: Jantjies / Lambie / Goosen
Scrumhalves: Faf / Groom / Piet v/Zyl
Props: Marcel v/d Merwe / Koch / Coenie / Kitshoff / Nyakane / Thomas du Toit / Redelinghuis/BEAST
Hookers: Bismark / Strauss / Marx/AKKERS
Locks: Etzebeth / / PSDT / Lood /Willemse / RG Snyman
Loosies: Jaco Kriel / Jacques du Plessis / Kirsten / Mostert / Carr / Notshe / Arno Botha / Vermeulen / du Preez x 2 (too early for the twins) / Whiteley
Out injured: Coetzee, Malherbe, Serfontein, Reinach, Pollard, Kolisi, Vorster & Gelant
7's duty - Kolbe, Senatla and Hougaard
Dream on boys keep dreaming...nobody will beat the NZ'ers...it's a long road to reality
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Fullback: Willie
Wings: Ulengo / Combrink / Ismeil / Sergeal Petersen / Skosan
Centres: de Allende / Jessie Kriel / Janse v/Rensburg / Mapoe / Frans Venter
Flyhalves: Jantjies / Lambie / Goosen
Scrumhalves: Faf / Groom / Piet v/Zyl
Props: Marcel v/d Merwe / Koch / Coenie / Kitshoff / Nyakane / Thomas du Toit / Redelinghuis
Hookers: Bismark / Strauss / Marx
Locks: Etzebeth / Lood / PSDT / Willemse / RG Snyman
Loosies: Jaco Kriel / Jacques du Plessis / Kirsten / Mostert / Carr / Notshe / Arno Botha / Vermeulen / du Preez x 2 / Whiteley
Out injured: Coetzee, Malherbe, Serfontein, Reinach, Pollard, Kolisi, Vorster & Gelant
7's duty - Kolbe, Senatla and Hougaard