We were more than a bit lucky in the end.
Captain26,388 posts
05 Jun 2024, 07:08
#41
05 Jun 2024, 07:08#41
My Bok side to play Ireland
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Captain30,741 posts
05 Jun 2024, 07:21
#42
05 Jun 2024, 07:21#42
No moola read what I said and I stick by that - losing a player is tough but the Boks lost players as well including one for the last 10 min but not having a specialist hooker negated our ability to press home the numerical advantage in the set pieces
If you don’t get that you don’t know your rugby. I’m not saying the loss of Cane was equal to us losing Bongi I’m saying that had we not lost Bongi we probably would have won that game by 20 because of the numerical advantage
The fact that it was pissing with rain and had been for days also put pay to playing attacking rugby out wide, taking advantage of the numbers
I stick with my take with 100% conviction
Pro5,061 posts
05 Jun 2024, 16:06
#43
05 Jun 2024, 16:06#43
Well Clitoris to be honest, I think it’s your time of the month and you feel overwhelmed ….even if we had 2 Bongi ,s on the field that day, we would not of put 20 points on the AB….the biggest reason was the very limited gameplan that we were using that day….Stampkar Deluxe is loosing it’s effectiveness by the day.
Pro3,183 posts
08 Jun 2024, 16:15
#44
08 Jun 2024, 16:15#44
Well all I wish to say is that thankfully Mostert was available for the last RWC and as usual always delivers a 100% effort.
Between him and Smith you could not ask for two harder working players who lay it on the line game after game.
Two outstanding Springboks who fortunately do not meet the low standard that some bloggers accept or expect.
Pity.
But can find a reason to select Moerat...I ask you.
Captain30,741 posts
09 Jun 2024, 23:31
#45
09 Jun 2024, 23:31#45
Only an ignorant rugby follower will not see past all the heart and energy
Springbok locks need to be physically imposing first and foremost unless their name was Victor Matfield who to his credit at least put in the effort to muscle up to a respectable 115kg in his prime
Powder puff Mostert is anything but physically imposing
The end
Captain10,129 posts
01 Jul 2024, 10:45
#46
01 Jul 2024, 10:45#46
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Captain10,129 posts
01 Jul 2024, 10:52
#47
01 Jul 2024, 10:52#47
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Captain21,007 posts
01 Jul 2024, 13:37
#48
01 Jul 2024, 13:37#48
Beast.
He went totally under the radar for most. Alongside Eben, quietly building the most successful lock pairing the Boks have had in the pro era.
Do we all agree on the highlighted part?
Captain49,914 posts
01 Jul 2024, 17:39
#49
01 Jul 2024, 17:39#49
Won two world cups…can’t argue most successful lock combo ever. I’m trolling through these oldies because there is a dearth of new thinking lately.
Captain30,741 posts
01 Jul 2024, 19:35
#50
01 Jul 2024, 19:35#50
Mostert is easily one of the worst Bok locks ever - I’d put him above Orie and Albert vd Bergh and that’s probably where it would end. He is better than Johan Muller as well and maybe Selborne Boome
Captain49,914 posts
01 Jul 2024, 20:32
#51
01 Jul 2024, 20:32#51
Packing behind Ox, Mostert was clearly very physical . ….oh hold on, Ox dominated all our opponents with no drive behind him.
Captain30,741 posts
01 Jul 2024, 20:43
#52
01 Jul 2024, 20:43#52
Mostert very physical bwhaahaaa
Ox does the same for the Sharks without powder puff behind him
Physical and Mostert do not go together and that’s a fact
Captain49,914 posts
01 Jul 2024, 21:15
#53
01 Jul 2024, 21:15#53
No prop could function with a deficient lock behind him. And frankly Ox is at his most dominant in the Bok pack.
Captain30,741 posts
02 Jul 2024, 00:01
#54
02 Jul 2024, 00:01#54
Biggest joke of the year - Mostert being physical
The thin guy with no muscle mass and narrow shoulders
The guy that could not clear out the 18 year old Georgian fullback
Mostert is a few things but physical is certainly not one of them - implying he is is literally insulting to anyone’s intelligence
As for Ox being more dominant as a Bok that is complete bullshit - nothing changes when he scrums down as a Shatk
Pro5,061 posts
02 Jul 2024, 00:43
#55
02 Jul 2024, 00:43#55
Franco plays 5… so isn’t he scrumming behind Frans and Eben at 4 behind OX?
Captain30,741 posts
02 Jul 2024, 00:51
#56
02 Jul 2024, 00:51#56
No it’s the other way round. A 4 is called a tighthead lock he scrums behind the tighthead as he is usually the bigger, stronger grunt lock
Captain49,914 posts
02 Jul 2024, 01:04
#57
02 Jul 2024, 01:04#57
No they switch for the Boks. And that’s been the protocol for a while. We put the big man behind the tighthead.
Captain49,914 posts
02 Jul 2024, 01:06
#58
02 Jul 2024, 01:06#58
But in fairness, in the RWC Snyman was behind Ox in most matches.
Captain49,914 posts
02 Jul 2024, 01:08
#59
02 Jul 2024, 01:08#59
Dave please post the video of the Georgian fullback….you use it so often we deserve to share your joy.
Pro5,061 posts
02 Jul 2024, 02:31
#60
02 Jul 2024, 02:31#60
5 - tighthead lock, as he packs down behind the tighthead prop in the scrum. The tighthead prop is under more pressure in the scrum, thus in order to help the tighthead prop, the tighthead lock is usually the stronger scrummager of the two locks. This usually translates into him being the heavier of the two.
4 - loosehead lock, picked more for his lineout abilities, with less emphasis on scrummaging. Likely to be the more mobile, thus will have slightly different roles in attack and defence. //
Pro5,061 posts
02 Jul 2024, 04:32
#61
02 Jul 2024, 04:32#61
Team announcement today, 1 pm.
Captain10,129 posts
02 Jul 2024, 05:54
#62
02 Jul 2024, 05:54#62
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Captain10,129 posts
02 Jul 2024, 05:55
#63
02 Jul 2024, 05:55#63
Captain49,914 posts
02 Jul 2024, 06:16
#64
02 Jul 2024, 06:16#64
Mostert fetching, Mostert driving through mauls, disrupting Lions’ lineouts, ankle tapping backs in space……this guy is a contribution a minute.
Pro5,061 posts
02 Jul 2024, 07:00
#65
02 Jul 2024, 07:00#65
And he just keeps going….well at least we get it and appreciate it….a true Bok warrior, that will Start again on Saturday together with Eben ….the real Powder puffs are the locks that get hyped up, but hardly Starts….they can’t handle the punches and are mostly injured.
Captain30,741 posts
02 Jul 2024, 11:53
#66
02 Jul 2024, 11:53#66
Mostert is a physical liability - no footage of him physically imposing himself - as a minimum a Bok lock needs to be physically imposing
Captain30,741 posts
02 Jul 2024, 12:02
#67
02 Jul 2024, 12:02#67
Moz I’m sure that Bok vs Georgia game must be on YouTube - would be very strange me making up a story about a Georgian fullback don’t you think?
As for the tighthead lock 4 he always scrums down behind the tighthead for every country not just SA
Captain49,914 posts
02 Jul 2024, 17:11
#68
02 Jul 2024, 17:11#68
Dave I would never accuse you of lying….I would just like to see the circumstances.
Captain30,741 posts
02 Jul 2024, 18:01
#69
02 Jul 2024, 18:01#69
I had a quick look on YouTube and only saw highlights of the 2021 game they played against Georgia at Loftus
Pro3,183 posts
02 Jul 2024, 18:44
#70
02 Jul 2024, 18:44#70
What a player that #5 is, he is everywhere and made some excellent plays.
Only the blind cannot see it.
WHAT AN EXCELLENT SPRINGBOK LOCK AND PLAYER.
Captain49,914 posts
02 Jul 2024, 19:59
#71
02 Jul 2024, 19:59#71
Geez Dave Eluckmiss dropped 6 of your starting team….do you accept the Genius is right?
Captain17,321 posts
02 Jul 2024, 20:15
#72
02 Jul 2024, 20:15#72
I remember the failed cleanout on the Georgian back. Just don't remember enough of it, memory paints its own pictures, but it did happen. I'll trust Dave that it was Georgia.
Captain30,741 posts
02 Jul 2024, 20:19
#73
02 Jul 2024, 20:19#73
It was definitely the Georgian fullback who was 18 years old
Captain17,321 posts
02 Jul 2024, 20:22
#74
02 Jul 2024, 20:22#74
no footage of him physically imposing himself
Gee Dave, look at him making meters through each of the first two tackles in that video above. Watch him drive through the ruck to effect a possession turnover at 3:00 in the video. You don't want to see it, you ain't gonna see it.
Captain30,741 posts
02 Jul 2024, 20:34
#75
02 Jul 2024, 20:34#75
Moz the only blindingly stupid call by Rassie is selecting Mostert over RG - there is absolutely zero excuse for preferring a pretender to a player that potentially is even better than Eben.
For the rest he has chosen experience over the future which I get as we are playing Ireland and there is no scope for experimentation and players finding their feet in test rugby
So Willie ahead of Fassi I completely get, supported by the fact Willie has been in great form for the Bulls
Jessie Kriel ahead of Am is purely down to Am having played no rugby for ages plus Kriel had a great WC and was good against Wales
Bongi ahead of Marx I totally get - Marx has been out for ages and was very rusty against Wales
Kwagga ahead of Roos is purely an experience thing as is Koch ahead of Thomas on the bench. Given his 6/2 split he had to go with Sacha over Libbok or Esterhuizen as Sacha covers 10, 12 and 15.
So for me it’s only the Mostert call that I find mind boggling
He prefers Lood over Mostert which I completely get but RG is far better than Lood so I’m struggling to understand the selection. I can only think RG has not unfortunately not played that much test rugby given his injuries
Captain49,914 posts
02 Jul 2024, 20:36
#76
02 Jul 2024, 20:36#76
Well I assume all the Lions players he man handled in the above tape were stronger than the Georgian fullback. So I assume we can forget about that unverifiable incident?
Captain30,741 posts
02 Jul 2024, 20:38
#77
02 Jul 2024, 20:38#77
Oh give me a break he is running at a flyhalf I’m talking about in the trenches in test rugby
Show me footage of Mostert dominating a collision against a forward or putting in a dominant tackle, smashing a player in the process
He simply can’t do it
Captain49,914 posts
02 Jul 2024, 20:43
#78
02 Jul 2024, 20:43#78
He prefers Willie because Fassi is still susceptible to making big mistakes. And Willie sees the field better than any other Bok.
Kriel is now our lead center….Am will get back at some point for obvious reasons …not now, because Kriel is part of the defensive fabric.
Libbok is a loser…..we won’t see much more of him
Bongi is preferred for obvious reasons.
Kwagga is better than Roos at this stage.
Mostert is our biggest contributor and fills the gaps left by Kolisi and Dud.
Captain30,741 posts
02 Jul 2024, 21:32
#79
02 Jul 2024, 21:32#79
Kwagga is not a better 8 than Roos he has never really shone at 8 or as a starter for that matter
Libbok is too classy a player not to be back - as Brown says he needs to work on his goal kicking which he says is an easy fix
Mostert is literally utterly useless - a complete physical liability
I’d literally have 10 other locks ahead of him as my Bok option headed obviously by RG and closely followed by Ruben v Heerden
Captain49,914 posts
02 Jul 2024, 21:48
#80
02 Jul 2024, 21:48#80
Dave you really should accept the verdict of the genius….watch the Lions tape. See the Lions wing beat Am and Mostert cover tackling bring him down with a brilliant open field tackle. Watch him pull off the turnover under pressure we have waited in vane for Dud to make, and they are the same height.
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