Captain30,741 posts
30 Apr 2024, 18:06
#41
30 Apr 2024, 18:06#41
It’s the only test AE has ever been dominant in and let’s face it, it was a friendly
Stormers first try a classic example of what we have missed….
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Captain49,914 posts
30 Apr 2024, 18:09
#42
30 Apr 2024, 18:09#42
The reason the running stat is hard to believe is because Dud’s numbers game after game are unbelievably bad….unless by chance ( he never creates anything) he makes a clean break. But 1 meter in 5 runs, which means he is stopped behind the gain line, is truly shockingly bad.
Captain30,741 posts
30 Apr 2024, 18:16
#43
30 Apr 2024, 18:16#43
Bullshit DA had a great WC that was confirmed in Chasing the Sun 2 - massive asset to the team
Your 1m stat is a load of shit
Captain30,741 posts
30 Apr 2024, 18:35
#44
30 Apr 2024, 18:35#44
Ok Moz I’ve just started the WC final again and go have a look at minute 5:30 and try tell me that DA does not make at least 4m in his first carry - stepping and beating a defender in the process
What a sad state of affairs ESPN stats are - insulting really
Captain30,741 posts
30 Apr 2024, 18:38
#45
30 Apr 2024, 18:38#45
This is a joke at minute 6:45 he gains another 3m and passes
I’m stopping there - enough evidence to confirm how utterly incompetent those stats are.
Two runs and he has already gained 7m and beaten a defender
Case closed
Captain49,914 posts
30 Apr 2024, 19:46
#46
30 Apr 2024, 19:46#46
4 metres laterally…zero going forward. I believe the stat is calculated in terms of the gain line. He never crosses it. I have searched for a definition, but haven’t found it. So my guess is only forward metres over the gain line are counted and negative metres are ignored.
Captain30,741 posts
30 Apr 2024, 20:04
#47
30 Apr 2024, 20:04#47
It’s flawed for if a player is put into space unopposed and gains 20m then if one relies on stats alone one would conclude that player was great with ball in hand
What is clear from the 6min I watched of the test is that DA’s first receipt of the ball results in him stepping a defender and gaining 4m in the process. A positive contribution
The second receipt has him in the line making metres and passing. Standard contribution
One certainty is that he has definitely already gained more than a metre over the gain line and that’s just after 6 min of the game
Captain49,914 posts
30 Apr 2024, 20:14
#48
30 Apr 2024, 20:14#48
He never gained 4 metres he got back to the gain line. All the metres before his pass in the second run were unopposed and behind the gain line.
The stats may not be perfect but will be specific.
Captain30,741 posts
30 Apr 2024, 20:31
#49
30 Apr 2024, 20:31#49
No he ran at least 2m beat a defender then ran another 2m before being tackled. That’s 4m in total, two of which were gain line advances.
He never breached the gain line in his second receipt as that was just a process line movement
So in his first contribution of the match he already gains 2m a metre more than the stats say he gained all match
Geez Etzebeth’s hit on Richie M was huge
Captain49,914 posts
30 Apr 2024, 20:41
#50
30 Apr 2024, 20:41#50
I’ll look at it again later Dave. My guess is metres gained for a player is over the gain line where there is one…and after he gets the ball on a kick or an interception.
Which makes sense because those are meters gained by the team…whereas in a run behind the gain line the team makes no meters. They started at the gain line.
So I checked the Bulls game and the sum of the meters gained by the players is exactly the meters gained by the team, which tends to confirm my original impression.
And I guess it’s not net metres….metres lost are wiped out, so when they say metres gained they are talking about gross meters gained.
Captain30,741 posts
30 Apr 2024, 20:48
#51
30 Apr 2024, 20:48#51
Yeah I’m guessing that is the case which I why I’m saying that on his first receipt he runs 2m, beats the defender on the gain line then advances another 2m before being tackled
Either way regardless of how they measure that passage of play to an observer that is a positive contribution by DA
The second receipt is different as he just runs 3m and passes - no gain line breached there
Captain21,007 posts
30 Apr 2024, 21:27
#52
30 Apr 2024, 21:27#52
If donkey swings it's tail at the moon and brays twice...how many meters did he make?
Captain30,741 posts
30 Apr 2024, 21:45
#53
30 Apr 2024, 21:45#53
Buttplug take your kindergarten humour and go shove it up your butt
You are soooo fucking boring
It’s tiresome - you bore me baldy
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