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Which All Black players would you put in the Bok team

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
27 Feb 2025, 19:19
#1
27 Feb 2025, 19:19#1

I can think of three….I would probably play Jordan in place of Arendse. Mo’unga ahead of the Hendrikse/Libbok options, although Pollard would be on the bench for the last 20minutes. And the obvious one, Savea would replace Kolisi.


That’s it. That tells you a lot about the talent pool we have available to us.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
27 Feb 2025, 20:18
#2
27 Feb 2025, 20:18#2

Both os wht I would call disastrous decisions = Mo'uhaga is not even making the AB team anymore and os present form a very poor flyhalf badly out of form. By the time tests cme stoumf Sacha will be back and plaing for the Boks, I think you are alking about Jordan Barrett and in his case I do no support his selection. He is playing for Lenster in his off seson and definitely so-so in perfromnces,

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
27 Feb 2025, 20:29
#3
27 Feb 2025, 20:29#3

Given it’s Arendse I’m replacing I thought it was pretty obvious I’m talking about Will Jordan.

RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
27 Feb 2025, 20:35
#4
27 Feb 2025, 20:35#4

Picking wingers for a world XV is tough. You're losing three of Cheslin Kolbe, Damian Penaud, Kurt-Lee Arendse, Will Jordan and Duhan van der Merwe . . . all of whom are deserving of a spot in a world XV.


For me it would be Cheslin #14 and Duhan #11.


As for the initial question, Rieko Ioane is probably better than anything we've got at outside centre . . . given that Jurenzo Julius hasn't had the test exposure he will surely get in the future.

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
27 Feb 2025, 20:49
#5
27 Feb 2025, 20:49#5

It's because we left them to play SR against noobs.


Pay us, and we'll come back, Kiwis ;)




MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
28 Feb 2025, 05:50
#6
28 Feb 2025, 05:50#6

Forward play trumps back play….so without the SA teams they erode more than us. Perverse but probably true.

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
28 Feb 2025, 09:41
#7
28 Feb 2025, 09:41#7

Yes Plum as 8 said years ago we never got a fair deal and the refs were biased against the Jarpies


I said leave them to stew without us and they will regret their behavior at some point.

MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
28 Feb 2025, 12:17
#8
28 Feb 2025, 12:17#8

Let’s just wait until after the Rugby Championship this year shall we boys instead of blowing your trumpets loudly in February!!!

DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
28 Feb 2025, 14:10
#9
28 Feb 2025, 14:10#9

Lol @ moolaa

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
28 Feb 2025, 14:49
#10
28 Feb 2025, 14:49#10

The only AB player I don’t rate that highly is Cane - none of the rest would let a Bok side down


The Boks are better but there is very little in it


I’d take Ione over Jessie but not Am for instance


Retallick or Barrett over Mostert all day long given how infrequently we start RG - both far far better players

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
28 Feb 2025, 17:29
#11
28 Feb 2025, 17:29#11

Another Mostert attack……I’d take Savea over Dud Toit any day and add in Dud Allende as a bonus,

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
28 Feb 2025, 17:38
#12
28 Feb 2025, 17:38#12

Moolaa you chaps were damn close in 2024. In fact you should have won the Ellis Park test, forgoing a penalty when that would have put you two tries in the clear with 15 or so minutes in the game.


This year we play in NZ…these will be massively contested tests.


The fact that you were so close playing in South Africa with a team that, man for man, was not on par….has to be regarded as a bit of a Bok flop. There is still no evidence of a Brown effect.

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
28 Feb 2025, 19:16
#13
28 Feb 2025, 19:16#13

"Another Mostert attack……I’d take Savea over Dud Toit any day and add in Dud Allende as a bonus,"


And yet you didn't pick the Alblack 12 ahead of DdA in your OP...and Ardi plays 8 or openside...not blindside like The Great PSDT.

RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
28 Feb 2025, 19:18
#14
28 Feb 2025, 19:18#14

"...and Ardi plays 8 or openside...not blindside like The Great PSDT."


Yes . . . but a rugby noob wouldn't know that.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
28 Feb 2025, 19:32
#15
28 Feb 2025, 19:32#15

Well Mostert is fucking useless and I mean that sincerely unless you measure a Bok lock by the number of process tackles he makes


Moz you are stupid enough to pick anyone ahead of PSDT for no player has made your name more mud than he has

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
28 Feb 2025, 19:33
#16
28 Feb 2025, 19:33#16

Well Barrett is even worse….but I’d take Esterhozen ahead of Dud. No center has made less of so much good ball provided by the best pack in the game.


As for Savea, the irony…..Dud is a lock playing flank, Savea covers all the bases of loosie play, Dud Toit covers one….tackling, and then only if it isn’t open field tackling.


Draad the epitome of parochial thinking, if you can call it thinking.






SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
28 Feb 2025, 22:09
#17
28 Feb 2025, 22:09#17

Barrett worse than Mostert? What you smoking?

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
28 Feb 2025, 22:21
#18
28 Feb 2025, 22:21#18

I was responding to Draad and your post dropped in the interim. So I was talking about Dud Allende and Jordie Barrett. But if it’s a choice between Mostert and Barrett the lock, I’d take Mostert.

MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
28 Feb 2025, 22:53
#19
28 Feb 2025, 22:53#19

I don’t know why some of you have this fascination with Rieko Ioane??

He’s being stymying our outside back attack for years and has never mastered the role of a 13. He’s only ever been a winger (a good one) and is constantly called out by AB supporters to be moved on or out altogether!

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
28 Feb 2025, 23:32
#20
28 Feb 2025, 23:32#20

Spot on Moolaa he was an excellent wing but seems to have never learned center play. But look who is punting him, Rooinek has a very limited grasp of back play.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
01 Mar 2025, 02:37
#21
01 Mar 2025, 02:37#21

powder puff Mostert over Barrett is literally insulting

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
01 Mar 2025, 02:40
#22
01 Mar 2025, 02:40#22

Bullshit Moola he is better than any of your other 13 options and I’d take him over Jessie Kriel


Ione is dangerous - if you rated him as a wing there is absolutely no reason he is not passable at 13 given how long he has been employed there


If I was defending I’d rather have Jessie coming at me than Ione

MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
01 Mar 2025, 03:56
#23
01 Mar 2025, 03:56#23

Wrong Saffex. His only attribute is a good defence. He is forever dying with the ball on attack and seems totally incapable of running his wings into space or ever actually being able to feed them, a prerequisite I would have thought for any good centre.

Nah, he’s rubbish!

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
01 Mar 2025, 11:45
#24
01 Mar 2025, 11:45#24

Saffex said he's better than Kriel or any other 13 in NZ...I don’t watch too much SR these days, but I'm sure there should be a decent 13...care to name a few.

MP
MpowerPro5,061 posts
01 Mar 2025, 16:07
#25
01 Mar 2025, 16:07#25

The Boks vs AB Player Match ups for upcoming 25 season is also going to be interesting….Wilco Louw vs Tamaiti Williams, Sacha vs Damian Mackenzie….


Then a Cameron Hanekom vs Ardie, PSDT vs Ethan Blackadder and the list goes on….


The 25 season will be tough for the Boks.


BL
Black & Red Club Pro255 posts
02 Mar 2025, 00:39
#26
02 Mar 2025, 00:39#26

Well it will be an exciting year watching the Boks play the AB's / France / Ireland - All away from home.

The AB's will be alot better this year.

MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
02 Mar 2025, 03:02
#27
02 Mar 2025, 03:02#27

Draad, we have Billy Proctor lined up to take the 13 jumper off Rieko but also the ever reliable ALB who can play either 12 or 13. ALB is way underrated outside NZ but is as steady as they come on attack and defence and never makes any silly errors. Other than that, there’s a few promising players but none that’s head and shoulders above the others.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
02 Mar 2025, 03:04
#28
02 Mar 2025, 03:04#28

ALB is as boring as fuck

MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
02 Mar 2025, 11:42
#29
02 Mar 2025, 11:42#29

Yes but he doesn’t make errors….

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
02 Mar 2025, 17:48
#30
02 Mar 2025, 17:48#30

Moola stop selling yourself short

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