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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
14 May 2021, 01:22
#41
14 May 2021, 01:22#41

Could Aussie Winner be Trad....somewhat similar style.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
14 May 2021, 01:29
#42
14 May 2021, 01:29#42
I’m still waiting on your take on Jake and not playing in the RC?
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
14 May 2021, 08:29
#43
14 May 2021, 08:29#43

Trad fits.

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SebPro2,680 posts
14 May 2021, 12:42
#44
14 May 2021, 12:42#44

Testing : Hoe gaan dit in Kolmanskop," Aussie " ? 

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
14 May 2021, 12:58
#45
14 May 2021, 12:58#45

 

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SebPro2,680 posts
14 May 2021, 15:01
#46
14 May 2021, 15:01#46

https://www.ruckersforum.com/forum/rugby/clever-mike-and-traditionalist/26445

https://www.ruckersforum.com/forum/rugby/suggestion-of-a-name-for-the-sa-team/25812


Is this Aussie ?"

I really think so.

This forum has had it's fair share of moles...

I think so but the most funny thing about those old posts is Lurker ( Augenoffner, Alucard, Dessert Fox, Sun Tzu, Gonzo the Great ) is greeted by Just Win, Mike, Bluebok and even Xavi as a new poster...Hahahahaha.

Lurker is the best name for you...the most honest, if that's indeed possible.

Trad has been absent for some time

AO you should have kept the name Lurker because it's the most suitable.

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
14 May 2021, 18:03
#47
14 May 2021, 18:03#47

I'm the original Seb. You'll never g uess. 

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
14 May 2021, 18:21
#48
14 May 2021, 18:21#48

Dave I have told you before Jake had to support the status quo or risk another huge political storm. He obviously decided that it would be too divisive.


But I gather you now admit Stampkar has finally been exposed and was passed over for a Lions’ berth.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
14 May 2021, 21:40
#49
14 May 2021, 21:40#49
Ah so because it was Jake he was just following the status quo but Rassie did the chicken run? WOW Nope at no point have I said CJ was available, I stand by what he himself said at the end of his last match for Ireland and as your quote evidences - tests until mid year = June, the Lions series is at the end of July It’s that simple.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
14 May 2021, 22:35
#50
14 May 2021, 22:35#50

No....Jake had no impact on playing, so he punted, he had other fish to fry. Erasmus was the architect of the chicken run.

As for you saying Stamp was not available despite guys like BOD saying he was...here are the Bookmakers odds on April24.

Locks

Maro Itoje (1/10), Alun Wyn Jones (1/8), James Ryan (1/7), Tadhg Beirne (1/4), Iain Henderson (4/6)

Back row

Taulupe Faletau (1/5), Tom Curry (2/9), Hamish Watson (1/4), Justin Tipuric (1/4), CJ Stander (1/3), Josh Navidi (4/7)

......

Now there is no way they would be offering 1/3 on Stamp if he was not available.

Stand by Stamp if you like, but I’m afraid you are in line for Pig Headed call of the year. ....oink, oink.


MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
14 May 2021, 22:35
#51
14 May 2021, 22:35#51

So Stamp made his retirement announcement on March 16....on April 24, the Bookmakers were still offering odds on him. Oink! Oink!

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
14 May 2021, 23:11
#52
14 May 2021, 23:11#52
Your take on Jake is an absolute joke. He said it as it is Of course the bookmakers and BOD knew better than CJ himself - of course But your take on Jake and the RC is priceless
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
15 May 2021, 00:29
#53
15 May 2021, 00:29#53

My take on Jake is what he was really thinking, nobody knows ....but Stampkar is a fact, he said he was available through the mid year tests ie the Lions tour:


Odds stacked against Stander for Lions recallCJ Stander Published on April 26, 2021
Oink! Oink! Dave you are looking like Clevermike!
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
15 May 2021, 02:01
#54
15 May 2021, 02:01#54
Your take on Jake is the biggest load of shit I have read in ages - it has everything to do with the fact you can’t stand the fact that Jake correctly supported the decision taken by SA rugby and Rassie not to play in the RC making a mockery of your chicken run call As for CJ find me a quote by CJ saying he was available for Lions selection. Not what some journalist or bookie said. Last I checked the end of July was after mid year June but hey ho
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
15 May 2021, 02:57
#55
15 May 2021, 02:57#55

Yes and June is before mid year, so by your definition they have to play at the stroke of midnight on June 30th.....oink, oink!

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
15 May 2021, 03:09
#56
15 May 2021, 03:09#56

And his club mate thinks he will be playing for the Lions.....

Munster flanker Peter O'Mahony, who returns from a three-match suspension this weekend, has backed his club-mate to enjoy a summer swansong with Warren Gatland's Lions.

"I'm not a selector - I'm not going to sit here and select him for the Lions - but he's playing incredible rugby. He'll put his best foot forward, as he always does," O'Mahony said of Stander.

"He shows up every week and plays with his heart on his sleeve. He plays hard, plays fair and he will put his right hand up in the air for that selection, certainly."

.....

He will put his right hand up says O’Mahony....oink.oink.

YF
You Fuck HeadsRookie25 posts
15 May 2021, 07:35
#57
15 May 2021, 07:35#57

Hoe gaan dit in Kolmanskop

I have absolutely no idea what it means.

And being honest I have no interest in what it means.  

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
15 May 2021, 10:08
#58
15 May 2021, 10:08#58



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SebPro2,680 posts
15 May 2021, 11:05
#59
15 May 2021, 11:05#59

At least "the lok aas" shows he definitely is not Trad...this is definitely an Outback Bogan.

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
15 May 2021, 12:02
#60
15 May 2021, 12:02#60

Nope

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 May 2021, 13:08
#61
15 May 2021, 13:08#61

Mozart

This chicken run story was made up by you and you still have no proof that Erasmus was involved and  deciding on the suspension of  test rugby in 2020.   It is really childish and stupid to carry on with a stupid refrain.  .  

The other tripe you wrote is that the English dominated the first half - but what was the score at halftime.    For the first ten minutes the English was on the defense and never crossed the halfway line.   Then a even steven situation developed where the  play was mostly around the halflime until minute 29 when there was a sustained attack on the tryline that produced  three points and lasted about 5 minutes.    In the last 7 minutes  the  Springboks attacked  again and gained the six points lead they had at halftime .    Why don't you think before making garbage statements on site.     

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
15 May 2021, 17:09
#62
15 May 2021, 17:09#62

Its so bizarre seeing Dr Moz and poor Organhuffer imploding over Erasmus. Their insane hatred of Rassie has only been fueled by Rassie's outstanding success. Neither Rassie nor the players get credit. World player of the year Du Toit is useless as is the very fine center Allende

Talk about Trump Derangement Syndrome!!! e now have Rassie Derangement Syndrome!

If only Dr Moz had accepted what I told him many years ago, when Rassie was the player coach of Free State and won the Currie Cup, that Rassie was a genius coach he would not have gotten into this pickle. Poor Orhanhuffer has marched over the cliff with Dr Moz. Organhuffer is weirder as the days go by

We hope the good Doctor soon regains his composure, sanity and sound judgment as we have far too many ignorant loons posting here already! Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha



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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
15 May 2021, 19:13
#63
15 May 2021, 19:13#63

Rassie's record of mediocrity with the Stormers, reducing them to a blunt defensive basher side that annually finished bottom of the log for attacking output. Low and behold he implements the same model at test level and regresses the Boks. Lauded for a 2018 that was worse than 2017. Why? 2019? Beat the worst Wallaby side in 45 years, beat an injury ravaged Welsh side and then beat England (our best matchup of the NH sides). Where are the fingerprints of the Rassie genius? I only see Nienaber. Now Rassie is the best Bok coach of all time, now the 2019 Boks are better than 2007? Rassie is the first white quota coach. Lucky draw and lots of input from his modest pal Nienaber.

As for Damian and Steph. I have all of their games. Show me when and where their greatness can be found. We've gone this root so many times and each and every instance video scrutiny comes to the fore, the Church of Rassie, Steph and Damian come crashing to the ground. Produce one bit of evidence. The floor is yours... 

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
15 May 2021, 22:49
#64
15 May 2021, 22:49#64

HasBeen you are as clueless about Erasmus as you are about vaccinations.  One game doesn’t change a thing.....absent the final we had a mediocre WC. And the final was more about how bad the Poms were. Hell they couldn’t even scrum.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
16 May 2021, 02:54
#65
16 May 2021, 02:54#65
I said find me a quote from CJ himself saying he was available for Lions selection - it’s that simple I heard his post match interview saying he was retiring from test rugby and playing out his Munster season Last I checked the end of June was mid year - fact Oink oink
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
16 May 2021, 03:13
#66
16 May 2021, 03:13#66
1 week agoGatland comments give insight as to why CJ Stander missed Lions call
Oink, oink!
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
16 May 2021, 03:16
#67
16 May 2021, 03:16#67

The mid year tests are the NH teams playing in the SH winter.....it’s as simple as that. Face it your small prop just never made the cut.

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
16 May 2021, 04:20
#68
16 May 2021, 04:20#68


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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
16 May 2021, 14:24
#69
16 May 2021, 14:24#69

Hahahahahaha Mozzzzzz. The whole world of rugby are against what you and poor organhuffer are saying. Boks voted Rugby side of the year, Du Toit player of the year and Rassie coach of the year. Forgive me if I don't follow you and poor organhuffer over the cliff. Bwahahahahahahhaahaha

As for the gene therapies every day proves their dangers. Follow the science Mozzzzz/ I will post more material to help you along. That said I sincerely hope you never had the real  Vaxx and will not get ill and die etc.

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SebPro2,680 posts
16 May 2021, 14:57
#70
16 May 2021, 14:57#70

Beeno, surely you can see...Organpuffer, Moz, Saf and Mike might differ in choices but they have one thing in common...they will never admit they are wrong sometimes...sometimes Mike does but the other 3 are perfect, at least in their own minds. To surrender their opinions...never.

They are now gloating (not Saf) that the Hapless Guppies were over whelmed by the charging buffalo's herded by their master, the snake charmer and his avid pupil Morne. 

Well done, Bulls.

The Sharks were shocking and disorientated...lost their game in their mindsets...faders of note.

Sadly this might throw an imbalance to future selections for the Br/I Tour selectors of Bokke, and might give rebirth to the olde style of play and selections.

Methinks we have seen this scenario before...yes indeed , perhaps too many.


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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
16 May 2021, 15:22
#71
16 May 2021, 15:22#71

There's a big difference between me, Unteromlett and Lügnerin: I provide an open platform for a person to state their case. I've brought an extraordinary amount of material to the table over the years and I'm not going to yield to personal attacks or because "everybody thinks so". Chabal, whenever I have requested your evidence that supposedly refutes what I say, you disappear. Each and every time. It's like you want to take to task, but you can't, so you appear in another thread and just make remarks about the person, but not the argument. Why is that? You say I think I'm perfect? How can you prove this? How do you know what I think of myself? Must I be weak so you can feel better about yourself, or are you going to front up and take on the challenge of the debate? I don't rip a person's character, I go for the argument. 

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SebPro2,680 posts
16 May 2021, 15:37
#72
16 May 2021, 15:37#72

Oh dear...so serious. Nevermind...don't worry about me...I'm just a very ordinary poster who enjoys rugby and what I see on the scoreboard and trust opinions of actual rugby internationals and experts more than I do mine.

It reminds of dear old "Snoekbek..."we won on the field of play, but not on the scoreboard....Hahahaha.

Lovely stuff, adds spice to the game.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
16 May 2021, 19:40
#73
16 May 2021, 19:40#73

Chabal best you don’t raise the question of flyhalves.....you were the major Lambie bleater on here. I told you he was a good defensive fullback in the Halfpenny mold. But you insisted, when the poor little chap simply didn’t have a clue.


He always looked best in his first game at 10....and in that game he looked best in the first 10 minutes. It was always downhill with Lambie. He wasn’t fit to tie Morne’s boot laces as a10.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
16 May 2021, 21:01
#74
16 May 2021, 21:01#74

Mozarrt has diverted  attention  away from where I pointed out he wrote garbage about what happened in the final.    Unfortunately he is delusional when it came to the Springbok  win in that test - which bearing in mind his attacks on Erasmus  and some of the key players - must have been a huge disappointment for him.

Mozart - let me repeat again Morne was not a flyhalf's  backside and he was indeed the poorest Springbok flyhalf  I have ever seen,    He had no game plan and a very poor out of hand kicking game - he never attacked the gain line and stood too deep in the pocket  to allow for any reasonable backline attack.   He was dropped from the Springbok set-up  necause he was a total loss bad when he returned under Coetzee was a total disaster,   Stade Francais found out enough that he was a failure and used him as their bench flyhalf.        

As to the Kindegarten Imbecile -  he does not even know when Erasmus coached the Stormers and that says it all.             

    

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SebPro2,680 posts
16 May 2021, 21:01
#75
16 May 2021, 21:01#75

Lambie was best at Fullback...I tend to agree...afterall that's where he played at the beginning of his rugby career...he was very talented. I've never denied Morne was effective at times but he dipped in France but he is effective at times with the Bulls type of game as was Naas Botha..But not the type who constantly sets the game alight.

I have respect for him and not like other posters and ignore those posts that disrespect him.

. But give me flyhaves like Dan Carter, Thierry Le Croix, Nicholas Sanchez, Hugo Porta and Phil Bennett mould every time. 

Just difference...different styles one prefers. Morne played a lot of games, perhaps because other choices of 10's were limited at certain times.

Really brilliant flyhalves are rare, plenty of reasonably good ones are around and mediocre ones are a dime a dozen.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
16 May 2021, 21:23
#76
16 May 2021, 21:23#76

There are very few flyhalves today who are effective ball in  hand. Pollard who Tokkie claimed was a Morne clone is one of the few against really tight defenses.

There are lots of flyhalves who are happy playing the phases....passing the ball. Morne wasn’t one of those....he built pressure through field position. But when the space was there he released the backline with  width and timing....see the 2013 AB test.


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
16 May 2021, 21:52
#77
16 May 2021, 21:52#77

Kicking and handing ball  possession to the  opposing team. put which team to be under pressure?

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SebPro2,680 posts
16 May 2021, 22:16
#78
16 May 2021, 22:16#78

An old post of my old school, the fly half factory...Joel and Butch were cultivated here.

I'm not boasting but am proud and privileged to have been there.

Apologise... The quality is poor...the game 1985 against Grey Bloem.

I know Joel irritates Moz by his voice but he is Jewish...it's the way he speaks but he and Butch are great guys and friendly and accommodating to share rugby experiences and answer questions and opinions. Knew Butch's dad too...he played soccer for Maritzburg NFL side.

https://youtu.be/pc7Vc38Ki-8



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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
16 May 2021, 22:52
#79
16 May 2021, 22:52#79

Morné had very few poor tests for the Boks or games for the Bulls. He was solid in all areas of flyhalf play, he just played for "the wrong" union. Lambie didn't have much in terms of skills or athleticism, but he was a calm figure under the high ball at 15 and could clear his lines effectively (he didn't have a big kicking game).

Where Pollard excels is his physicality in contact. Lambie, Goosen et al never had physicality or explosiveness into contact. He has had a tendency to run and take contact too often, and struggled to control a game tactically, but he was clearly talented. 

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SebPro2,680 posts
16 May 2021, 23:12
#80
16 May 2021, 23:12#80

Pollard is the best we have and ranks high up on the world stage. I believe we cannot beat the Lions without him....and the scrumhalf that fits in with him best, is Faf.

We must just hope he is not injured. 

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