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European Politis in turmoil

Started by clevermike6 REPLIES59 VIEWS· 07 Sept 2026, 17:20
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clevermikeCoach57,793 posts
07 Sept 2026, 17:20
#1
07 Sept 2026, 17:20#1

The emphasis on this site is a dfgree of Trump hatred which is limitless - but the fact is that Governance in NATO allies are are really down the drain and policy implementation impossible.

Germany

Germany is in a rather complicated situation. In the 1950's an 1960's a system of self-protction as put in place that the 3 main parties - the CDU, the SPD and Free Democrats - would work together to ensure that only they could Govern in Germany, The three parties undertook never to work with any new Party - whether from the right or the left - and with the German economy thrivi.ng the situation was stable, until about 2014 when the CDU governed wth the help of the tthe Free Democrats.

In Germay under Merkel there was initially small growth in Germanmy untiil 2012 when the growth started going down. In the period since 2014 the new Parties grew significantly - AfD, the Greens, De Linke 9an off-shoot of the Communist Party, and a Party split from the SPD named the SWD.

In 2019 the system remained in place for cnnvenince the FDP withdrew from the coalition Government and tha resulted in a election be held in 2021.

In the election in 2021 the seat disctribution was as follo/ws:-

SPD - 206 seas

CDU?CSU 196 seats

Greens - 118 seats

FDP - 91

AFD - 83 seeds

The Left 39 sets

The SPD candidate became Cancellor forming a coalission with the Greens and the FDP and again the FDP withdrew from t he coalition and forced to hold a new election, .

In the 2024 the Free Democrats vanished got less tan 4% of t he vote and banished fro/m sight, in that election the Party seats distrbution was as follows

The CDU and their Bavarian Partners the CSU = 208 seats

The AfD = 152 seats

The SDP = 120 seats

The Greens = 84 seats

Tte Left = 64 seats So the resultant Government was fomed between the CDU/CSU, the SPD, The problem with such a coalition is that decisions cannot be taken when ideological questions came into play, So the economy continue going down .

So what is the situation now accoding to opinion polls and as was evidence in the State Election in Saxony Anhalt:

Polls

AfD 35%

CSU/CDU 23%

SDP 12%

Greens 9%

Election Results; in Saxony Anhalt

AfD - 43.85%

CSU - 17,5%

SPD - 9%

Greens 9%

The Left - 9%

SWJ - 5%

The above result is enough for the CSU to get rid of Merz as Chancellor and he is on extremely thin Ice,

France

In May 2024 in the Eurpean Parliament election in France took a real beating by especially the RBN Paty ed by M Le Penne. Macron panicked and called for a Parliamentaru electio - hopng the upcaming Oly,[oc G a,es im France would cause hessitant botes to support his party, It failed and in Round 1 his party failed miserably,

That stratey failed badly and his party lost is Parliamentary majority, In the election tried to prevet beat the Le Penne Party. The FGarce comtnued ansd since 2024 France had 4 Prime Ministers - one of thoise was Mauor of a city and a epublican Party eader, He efised to resign as Mayor and travel to/ Paris for weeks in trying to run a Gpvernment who coud not pass budgets, He was rig ht - he had no future as Prime Minister and was replaced, ,

The economy is getting worse ans and suppot for the RN Party of Le Penne in g etting stronger. That ois bad news since the Psidentia election in France is due in April 2027. Le Penne will win in Round 1 - but the problem is who will be the candidate that would.oppoe Le Penne in Round 2 of the pesidential election, If ot i a member of the Communist Party and their neo communist partners The centrists dislike Le Penne - but the communists . I

The UK

I did no/t get tp the UK yet - bu,t I believe S tarmer's faiure todeliver anythn g to the voters made im un. The problem is like the Dempocratic Party in the USA Labur has to adverse wings - i fact verging on neo-Communism and the more pragmatic - but still center left - are not allowed any leeway in the UK. Stormer was jeopadized and kicked out by the leftist neo-Communists. Burnham has already been warned by the ultra-leftist in the Labour Party to -

  • * increased taxation of the wealthy; and

  • * spend more money the Government does not have,

The wealthy are has means of migrating to othe countries with little taxaton and there are quite a few of those and in the process clse shop in the UK woth people being fored in the process, In the USA there are States with excessvely high taxation levels governed by the Demopratic Party there ove te last 5 years mre than 4 million peope moved from those states to ohers with low State level taxation. They took ther money wth them - but also close her business operations with tens of thousands of jobs vnshing in the process,

Where countries have introduced major tax increases the fact is that real income for the State does not rise or show minimum rise in actual mopey being collected by the State, In the end the people who suffer as a result arenormally the working class and they are suffering from ever-increasng business closing and resutnt unemplayment.



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sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,348 posts
07 Sept 2026, 22:01
#2
07 Sept 2026, 22:01#2

People want change, and the mainstream parties - both left and right are failing to deliver.
There are certainly problems, but the main 2 are:

  1. Flatlined wage growth. (Over 15 years of no wage growth).
  2. Illegal immigrants

The West appears to be stagnating, and change is needed. If the mainstream parties can't deliver this, they will get voted out in the next elections.
The only drawback is getting a leader like Nigel Farage, whose focus will be to enrich himself rather than take things forward. However, if he is the only option, and Labour fail to deliver, then Farage will get into power.

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