Good for you Germany . . .

Berlin has responded to calls from US President Donald Trump to assist with keeping shipping lanes uninterrupted in the Strait of Hormuz, with a government spokesperson saying, “This war has nothing to do with NATO. It is not NATO’s war.”

The comment, made by Chancellor Friedrich Merz’s spokesperson, came after Trump made a thinly veiled threat towards the NATO alliance, saying it could face a “very bad future.”

The German government also once again reiterated that it would not participate in any activity in the Strait of Hormuz.

“Participation has not been considered before this war and is not being considered now,” the government spokesperson added.

Exactly. This is not NATO's war. NATO were not consulted, just as Congress didn't approve it.

This war belongs to Bozo and Bibi. It's their war. No-one else's.

Britain offered to help with 2 aircraft carriers and like a pathetic little child, Bozo responded by saying that their ships weren't needed for a war that was already won.

Well, let the clown carry on winning his war by himself then, I say.

Hope other European countries have the same stance as Germany.

Britian just announced they will not be joining the war.

Good call Starmer.

The chickens are coming home to roost.

Trump could cause World War 3. Most of his actions seem to be driven by a desire to prevent China from becoming the country with the highest GDP.

Trump wanted to take Iran's oil in the same way he did with Venezuela, and block it from being sent to China.

Trump is trying to protect the petro-dollar to ensure all trade is in dollars. However, his actions are having the opposite effect. Instead, the US dollar is being sold off, and more and more countries are trading in the Chinese yuan.

If Europe enters the Epstein war, then China would be providing Iran with weapons against Europe.

This is Trump's war. He owns it.

If you break it, you fix it.

"If you break it, you fix it."

If the USA maintained that position during the 1940s, you would have been typing that in German now.

NATO is a defensive alliance only.

https://x.com/realtrumpstein/status/2033338945593860479

If any country/place should get credit for winning WW2, it is Russia/USSR - who were responsible for killing over 75% of the Nazi army. Hitler screwed up by trying to attack Russia during winter, and spreading his forces too thin.

America only entered the war later on - after Japan attacked Pearl Harbour

America declared war on Japan - then a few days later Hitler declared war on America.

Only then, did America join the Allies against Hitler.

Are you saying they could have won without America?

Of course I am saying that.

America did provide financial loans that were repaid with interest. However, their involvement in WW2 was later on. Hitler bunged the war with poor tactical errors.

If the USA maintained that position during the 1940s, you would have been typing that in German now.

Ah yes the US would of just ignored Germany declaring war on it and its submarines sinking its ships.

But asides from that point, no I wouldn't be, because Germany couldn't have defeated the UK, the Naval disparity was too great. And if they couldn't conquer Britain they where never going to get to Ireland on other side of it.

Your side needs to man up and admit the present situation around Iran is their mess to clean up. As I said you break it, you fix it.

"If the USA maintained that position during the 1940s, you would have been typing that in German now."

Here we go again with the same old irrelevant argument.

We all liked that America of 1940. I thought we'd made that clear. That was an America we all respected.

But this is Bozo's America and this is Bozo's war. We don't even recognise this America let alone respect it.

It's not about like....Iran is a problem ...has been for a very long time...just like Russia in Ukraine...it needs a combined effort to solve...and there's a very good reason why Europe doesn't want to get involved...they are scared of Iran's retribution by terrorist attack...exactly why this nonsense has been tolerated for decades...until one day it's too late, and they do something too horrible to even think about.

"Iran is a problem ...has been for a very long time"

I can just as easily say . . . "the USA is a problem . . . has been ever since they elected a clown as president".

The difference is, I can back my statement up with countless examples . . . yours is just something that your Fox News channel or your dominee or your alt-right website tells you is true.

S o wh o ran to the USA when shippiong was atacked by th e Iranian terorist branches of Iran in Yemen (the Houthi's" and Somalio (Al Shaabab) attacked ships cvcarrying goods to and from EU Countries in he Gulf of Aden and the Red Sea less than a year ago pleasding ith Trum p [pptect that ships? And the USA had to use missiles and aircaftsd to stop the havoc.

The answer s simple - Germany has more Muslim Residents than te UK and fear terrorist attacks in Germayy itself - so now they act if Gerany - weak as shit in Governance with one of the weakest army since 1866 in Europe - is not involvrd in the atatcks on Iran because they fear rterrorism in the vast Musli, Community in Germany based on Merke;'s Opn Border Policy. There has been regguar terorist atatcks in Germany in evey year since 2022. The youth in Germany has abandpned the Governing Parties in the present coa;ition because the county is in recession for three years and the German Gopvernment is destroying German

I would not place a cent on what the German Ship of Fools comes up with.

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It's not about like....Iran is a problem ...has been for a very long time...just like Russia in Ukraine...it needs a combined effort to solve.

Oh the US should gets Europe's help in Iran, after they tried to bypass Europe from the Ukraine-Russia negotiations? Karma is a bitch isn't it.

.exactly why this nonsense has been tolerated for decades...until one day it's too late, and they do something too horrible to even think about.

This is gas and also utterly pathetic. Your scrambling for excuses to justify this absolute and total (not to mention oh so predictable) clusterfuck the US has got itself with this. It doesn't matter what Trump does, he could be live streaming the execution of kitten's and you would try to find away of justify it. We have idiots on other threads making posts about hypothetical Iranian nuclear bombs blowing up New York...mental shit.

You made your hill, now go stand on it. Absolute fucking clowns.

Searching for reason in the jungle of Trump’s tales may compel hopelessly sensible people to superimpose logic where there is none in order to satisfy the need for some semblance of soundness.

He is stuck in a quagmire. His goals are elusive. His bombing does not force a surrender. He has no exit strategy. Good morning, Vietnam

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/mar/14/trump-iran-vietnam

I'm not saying any country should now come and help the US effort...the prudent thing would have been for the US to get whoever else involved before the time...but something needs to be done...US is more than capable enough to do it themselves...but snubbing them now might come back to bite them later on down the line...like I said, give the dust time to settle... let's see how it looks in a few months.

". . . let's see how it looks in a few months."

Sure, I can wait . . . as long as you understand that each month this war goes by costs the US around $30bn per month.

No rush then . . .

the prudent thing would have been for the US to get whoever else involved before the time

He wouldn't have been able to get them to go along, because he wouldn't have been able to provide any credible reason for the war or provide them with an actual plan.

but something needs to be done

No something didn't need to be done...don't you get it yet Trump lies and lies and lies. There was no immanent threat, and making up some hypothetical Iranian doomsday plot isn't a justification, it's an excuse. If negations were still ongoing right now, you would have no issue with that, you wouldn't be sitting up at night thinking OMG the Iran situation needs to be resolved now, we have to strike now!

But asides from that point, no I wouldn't be, because Germany couldn't have defeated the UK, the Naval disparity was too great. And if they couldn't conquer Britain they where never going to get to Ireland on other side of it.

So the Poms were protecting you shirkers.

There certainly was no immanent threat….but there might have been an imminent one. Did you talk to the CIA before reaching your conclusion?

scorpion/frog

Who's the scorpion and who's the frog?... you'd be surprised...more than just one stinger around ...know them by their fruit...

Tell me more

Stav

Oh the US should gets Europe's help in Iran, after they tried to bypass Europe from the Ukraine-Russia negotiations? Karma is a bitch isn't it.

That statement is a lie concocted by the media. There were no by-passing of NATO couintries in the Ukraine negotiations.

We have idiots on other threads making posts about hypothetical Iranian nuclear bombs blowing up New York...mental shit.

Yeah, I can just imagine what your response would have been back in 2001 if someone had told you that a couple of Boeings would take out a few thousand American citizens and also forever change the Manhattan skyline ....

Just like you can't see what is happening on your own doorstep, you also refuse to even try and acknowledge the danger from around the world.

You are are just so incredibly naive and gullible .....

At least I can acknowledge the possible threats coming from around the world, even at the risk of being ridiculed by people like you.......yet it's exactly people like you who laugh off these kind of threats that are the real idiots in the discussion.

I don't follow much of this shit but I do not see how killing so many people is going to make the rest of them your friends.

Surly all he has achieved is to make more religious nutters that are even more willing to blow themselves up to kill more innocent people.

All the world can hope for is the nutters are focused on killing Americans and leave the rest of us out of it.

Surly all he has achieved is to make more religious nutters that are even more willing to blow themselves up to kill more innocent people.

This was always the risk, hence my concern about some big retalitory attack against the USA at some later stage.... not necessarilly nuclear, but something like another 9/11 from splinter cells already within the USA

I would not want an enemy like Iran, who have already been caught with information regarding wanting to create their own nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles ...

So hang on, you wouldn't want an enemy like Iran yet you're applauding a senseless attack on Iran?

That doesn't make sense.

Btw, while this incredibly stupid and short-sighted war is happening, your hero is busy boasting how he's going to "take" Cuba.

". . . let's see how it looks in a few months."

Why?

A tragedy is unfolding right now, fueled by Trump's lies and his confusing, pathetic commentary.

“Help is on the way” and “Take back your country” were utter bullshit. I hope the Iranians paid no attention to him; those who did would be facing the full brutality of the regime.

The so-called plan was to bomb Iran to dust, but it hasn’t worked. There was no strategy to secure the Strait of Hormuz, nor any consideration for adding another layer of protection with one or two minesweepers.

Calling for help from other nations is an admission of failure.

Iran already wants to destroy America.. they've been yelling "Death to America" for decades...they've been behind most terror groups around the world ...they even fund the fcn ANC....they're not the victims here...they are a rogue terrorist regime who've been tolerated for much too long.

They've been behind Oct 7 and many more terror attacks throughout the ME... terrorizing the region...enough.

There are plenty MAGA lunatics in America who want nothing more than death to Islam.

The 9/11 attack and other isolated terror attacks - while tragic - are small fry compared to the devastation that the USA has wreaked on Iran and other Middle East countries over the last few decades.

Your point is completely lost on me.

Fair enough...I totally get that. I'd rather the USA did not get involved in the ME at all, but I don't think that's gonna happen in my lifetime... unfortunately...there are too many duel citizens, powerful business and interest groups with an vested interest in supporting Israel...if there was a deal to be made, it's long past that ...radical Islam is not interested in that...only total world conquest...since the middle ages.. it's not ever gonna change.

So hang on, you wouldn't want an enemy like Iran yet you're applauding a senseless attack on Iran?

That doesn't make sense.

I don't see any inconsistencies .... applauding disproportionate or poorly planned actions by Trump isn't required or needed at all, to recognize Iran as a major continuous ongoing world problem here.

I can still want the Iranian regime either weakend or taken out completely and still criticise any reckless execution of those actions to do that.... that could inevitably make things worse in the long term, whilst also acknowledging that I am also now making a very dangerous enemy for myself, which by choice I would'nt want, even if that choice was to start the war to begin with.

So yes, who in their right mind would ever want to make an enemy of someone who has constantly said "Death to your existence" .... whilst quietly also previously looking at ways to nuclear armament, whilst bullshitiing the rest of the world... but tough choices need to be made.

The 9/11 attack and other isolated terror attacks - while tragic - are small fry compared to the devastation that the USA has wreaked on Iran and other Middle East countries over the last few decades.

Very valid point that I agree with

The Pentagon's estimate for Iran having a nuclear warhead before this war started was the year 2035.

That is a fact.

All this talk of nukes and enrichment should be seen in that context . . . unless you know of a better source than the Penatagon of course in which case, put up the link.

Also, let's not forget that Bozo boasted after Midnight Hammer that he had obliterated Iran's nuclear capability so if you guys want to keep banging on about Iran's nuclear threat being the reason for Operation Epic Fail, that's fine, believe that if you prefer but at least have the common sense and the common decency to admit that Bozo lied back in June 2025 when he claimed that had been resolved.

? Established facts:

1. Iran has hundreds of kilograms of 60% enriched uranium
2. That is very close to weapons-grade

Key takeaway

The concern is not that Iran already has weapons-grade uranium —

it’s that it is now very close to being able to produce it quickly if it chooses to

Are you saying the Pentagon has got this wrong . . . by about 8 years?

They have been wrong before eg that Iraq had WMD. But all I’m saying is they have a lot of enriched Uranium. And even if the Pentagon is right, how soon before they potentially have a weapon do we act, 8 years, 5 years, 3 years? All they need is 8 years and a do nothing President like Obama with 2 terms for that to be a reality.

So to summarise, you believe Bozo started this war to save the Iranian people from a terrible government and to prevent a nuclear war that might happen in 8 years time?

Is that a fair summary?

Ummmm . . . what has Bozo ever shown in his nature that makes you think he is this caring, generous and carefully proactive gift to mankind?

I think you're delusional but go ahead and tell me what makes you think Bozo is this admirable phalanthropic saviour of the world.