Iran are a Theocratic totalitarian state who have been the main sponsors of global terrorism for sometime. They probably backed the original attack by Hamas on Israel that resulted in thousands of hostages and deaths of Israeli's and people from all around that world in Israel.
Trump, the no wars president has now extended his record as the most wars by any US president - in his second term.
Netanyahu is not the ideal person either. So what we have are some authoritarian people in the battle.
If bombing countries was considered to be waging war by the USA, Obama would have been the best warmonger...it is BTW, but they'll call it a military operation or something...
In his 2024 presidential campaign, Donald Trump promised voters that he would end wars, not start them. Over the past year, he has instead ordered military strikes in seven nations. His appetite for military intervention grows with the eating.
fkngbatshitclown ...
Venezuelan opposition leader María Corina Machado says she presented her Nobel peace prize medal to President Donald Trump, describing it as a recognition of his commitment to Venezuela’s freedom.
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One of the posts Green shared on Saturday read, in all-caps: “EVEN IF YOU START A NUCLEAR WAR, WE WILL CRAWL OUT OF THE ASHES AS SEVEN-LEGGED MUTANTS DEMANDING THE RELEASE OF THE EPSTEIN FILES.”
President Donald Trump hosted the inaugural meeting of the
Board of Peace on February 19, 2026, in Washington, D.C..
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So the main serpent is now dead together with his top leadership and the people will make a step towards beoming a free society - semocratcally elected,
One wonders whether there are 2 982 virgins waiting for each of the 41 "martyrs" killed. The moment the Ayatollah supported terrorists into Iran to help killing protect the regime by killing protestors he signed his own desth warrant,
No more softsoaping of terrorism by the likes of Obama and and the Autopen Presidency in getting bribes and coruption. to allow for arrest of gangsters like Maduro in Venezuela and the late Ayatollah shows one thing clearly - Trump protects and promote democracy in the World,
Ayatollah Ali Khamenei had prostate surgery in 2014
My word, talk about TDS!!!
My word, talk about TDS!!!
Ja oom, lift your game ...
I hear TDS has very long recovery time.
Good luck with that.
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Some Hide of Buttplug to accuse someone of being obsessed when he obsessed about me being Blackboy let alone his fanatical obsession with
the forum. Often wonder if the obsession flowed onto him hacking my account.
"Often wonder if the obsession flowed onto him hacking my account."
Who pressed your button huh?
or are you looking for a conservation.
can’t help u sucker, you just not my type
Have a fat day
I love to see how hatred of Trump turn embers into lovers of criinals and terrorists lake Maduro and the Ayatollah. For them cruel dictators killing their own people in thousands are preferable.
So even the guardian reported that people in Iran are celebrating the death of rhe murderous Ayatollah - while the Regime organize protests by obvious beneficiaries of the Regime of murderers
Seems that the selection of a new Ayatollah can happen soon - but the candidates all seems even worst thatn the dead bastard,
People keep saying that anyone who criticizes Trump is suffering from “Trump Derangement Syndrome.”
Well actually, you can just as easily say the opposite. The people supporting him are the ones suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome. They’re so blinded by loyalty that they can’t see apples for apples anymore.
He promised he would not start wars. Now he’s making war with Iran. Calling that “defensive” makes no sense when Iran didn’t attack the US.
If someone still defends that and pretends it matches his promise, then who’s actually ignoring reality and deranged??
So realistically seen, real TDS isn’t criticizing Trump. No it’s defending every contradiction no matter what.
So Uncle BS, you say criticizing Trump means loving criminals and terrorists. That’s absolute nonsense.
Criticizing Trump does not mean supporting Maduro or the Ayatollah. That’s lazy bias reasoning.
You’re pretending there are only two options: support Trump or support dictators. That’s not reality.
A person can oppose dictators and still oppose Trump’s actions at the same time.
You say people celebrating the Ayatollah’s death proves something.
It doesn’t. People celebrating a dictator dying doesn’t automatically justify foreign strikes or war. Those are two separate issues, wake up for goodness sake!
You’re also calling him a murderous dictator, but then you assume anyone who questions Trump must prefer that regime. That’s yet again lazy BS and not logical.
Disagreeing with Trump’s military actions does not equal loving criminals. It means questioning whether escalating war is wise, necessary, or consistent with his promises.
If you want a serious debate, drop the “you love terrorists” line. It’s just a way to avoid addressing the actual argument.
"Who pressed your button huh?
or are you looking for a conservation.
can’t help u sucker, you just not my type
Have a fat day"
Took the time out to respond.
That's a good post Mpower but you're wasting your time trying to have a good faith debate with Mike.
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Seems that the selection of a new Ayatollah can happen soon - but the candidates all seems even worst thatn the dead bastard,
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That is correct DumbMike. Look what happened after the fall of Saddam Hussein.
It pushed the region even further far-right, with the rise of many groups like ISIS, Taliban etc.
Trump will want someone who is favourable to "him" to take power. He is not worried if it will be a candidate that is more Democratic - or less religious.
"Ayatollah Ali Khamenei had prostate surgery in 2014"
He's also been yelling: "Death to America" since 1979, sponsoring terrorism and destabilizing the whole region for 45 years ... Openly supported and planned assassination attempts on Trump... they've had months to make a deal...they refused...Khamenei has probably got more blood on his hands than Putin...the world can't afford dictatorships like the one in Iran to disrupt peace an entire region without consequences...it has gone on too long...time to end it.
PS ... I'm not celebrating his death, just saying he wasn't a saint...I hope there was another way, but there probably wasn't...going on for 45 years...
I was also appalled by the way Sadam Hussein and Moammar Gaddafi's reigns came to an end ...they were treated barbarically after being defeated...I am glad Khamenei wasn't subjected to such horrors.
"evil prospers when good people say nothing"
The time has been right for action decades ago.
Trump Supporters, are so naive it’s unbelievable. You’re listing everything Khamenei did for 45 years like that somehow justifies Trump making war right now.
Yeah, Iran has done bad things, but that doesn’t make killing innocent people okay. Most of the people dying aren’t the fanatics...they’re ordinary Muslims.
And then the supporters say the world can’t afford dictators like Iran. Really? What about America? Look at all the wars you ignore... Hiroshima, Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Libya, and now Iran again.
Millions of innocent people dead. America and Trump is the real dictators here!
White people in power, supported by voters who keep them there. America and Hitler has done more destruction than almost anyone else in history.
You talk about evil prospering when good people say nothing. Then don’t just point at Iran. Look in the mirror. Look at America.
Look at the Jeffrey Epstein's Island where children were sexually abused and Trump was buddies with that Demon...look at ice and how people are treated at the border.
American citizens that have slaved there whole life...making America rich with the tax money paid, just get killed in there own country and all the young Soldiers that's going to die now again?!
For fucking what? So that this TV show host can sit lekker warm in his house, and eat so much that he soils himself again.
That’s real evil. Supporting Trump means supporting that system.
It really looks like you guys have no cooking clue. Bias Loyalty to Trump, you see evil everywhere else, but can’t see your own hypocrisy that stinks to high heaven!
The world’s is screwed because people support fuck ups like Trump and Putin.
Indoctrinated and brainwashed so much to pretend that they are on the pure side...but are actually on the side of the devil himself.
The same standard should be applied to everyone.
Two interesting interviews this morning….one with a former Trump secretary of defense. When asked by the interviewer whether negotiations weren’t a better approach, he made the point that the West has been negotiating with Iran for 45 years with no results.
Which segues into the second interview of an Obama negotiator. She made the point the US doesn’t deploy force until there is an imminent threat.
So there you have the contrary position….negotiate and deploy force when there is an imminent threat. Trouble is Iran has been buying inter continental missiles from China and rapidly expanding it’s own missiles program.
So wait a few years and we can try negotiating, a tactic that hasn’t worked in 45 years, with an emboldened Iran capable of taking out any city in the world.
Yes that sounds like a better approach.
If it had been another US president, I might have been less reluctant.
Iran could become another Venezuela, where Trump steals their oil and stores the proceeds in an offshore tax-free account. I see Trump more like these authoritarian ego-maniacs that the Middle East have, rather than conventional politicians from the West.
Iran has really shot itself in the foot by attacking civilian areas in neighbouring countries that have no involvement. If America and Israel attacked them, they could try defend themselves. Why attack other countries- especially civilian areas? Surely, a better strategy for Iran would be to try to get other Arab countries to side with them, rather than against them.
Which other President….Carter, Clinton, Biden, Obama, Bush 2?
Two interesting interviews this morning….one with a former Trump secretary of defense. When asked by the interviewer whether negotiations weren’t a better approach, he made the point that the West has been negotiating with Iran for 45 years with no results.
That would be a valid point if only for the fact the US and Iran did reach an agreement back in 2015.
Which segues into the second interview of an Obama negotiator. She made the point the US doesn’t deploy force until there is an imminent threat.
So there you have the contrary position….negotiate and deploy force when there is an imminent threat. Trouble is Iran has been buying inter continental missiles from China and rapidly expanding it’s own missiles program.
So wait a few years and we can try negotiating, a tactic that hasn’t worked in 45 years, with an emboldened Iran capable of taking out any city in the world.
Well what does one define as an imminent threat, Iran having nuclear capability or ICBM capability in days, week or months?
Now as far as I can find online, there is no credible evidence that Iran attempted to obtain ICBM's from China. While US intelligence believed Iran was many years away from being able to develop ICBM capability.
As for its own missile program, Iran is believed to have lost about 50% of it's missile stockpile in the 12 day war with Israel and the US last year. It's subsequently launched a major expansion of its domestic missile program to rebuild it's stock which allowed them by the start of this year to have allowed it to return to it's pre 12 day war stockpile levels.
Yes that sounds like a better approach.
You make it sound like there is only these two extreme options, strike now or wait till Iran has the ability to flatten cities anywhere in the world assuming that's something Iran even wants to have.
Assuming a decision was made to pursue a nuclear weapon by Iran's leaders and their is no evidence that they made that decision, Iran could have possibly produced a nuclear weapon in a matter of months before the attacks on it's nuclear facilities last year. From what I can find, Iran hasn't attempted to undertake major repairs of the nuclear facilities that where damaged, just stabilization and clean up effort, so while the extent of the damage is unknown it's likely their ability to develop a nuclear weapon was set back at least by several months. However that's only part of the story as Iran would also need a delivery system for a nuclear weapon which would involve miniaturizing the weapon and having a missile capable of carrying it, this was something intelligence agencies reckoned Iran was several years away from.
So there was no imminent threat.
Given how effectively western intelligence services have penetrated Iran, it's also impossible to believe that Iran could make the decision to pursue a nuclear bomb or nuclear capable missile in secret without it being uncovered whilst in development well before the weapons systems would be ready for use.
It's at that stage the US/Israel could genuinely make a case for striking Iran. But's still a situation where they should present their evidence to the world via the UN, try to build a consensus in the international community and try to ensure any such operation is in compliance with international law.
Right now as it stands, the US is the one to have broken the agreement it made with Iran in 2015 and has twice since attacked Iran while negotiations between the two side were supposedly ongoing. It puts the world is on very slippery slope if you can just attack another country because you fear without evidence 'they might' attack you at some unspecified point in the future.
I would even prefer the corpse of Biden, and the auto-pen committee. This is not a decision that should rest with one person. It is probably also illegal in America, as Trump has not gotten the approval to declare war. Is this not a war, a specialist military operation like Putin's?
Article I, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution grants Congress the sole power "to declare War." This means presidents cannot formally declare war on their own.
Passed in 1973 over President Nixon's veto, this law requires presidents to notify Congress within 48 hours of committing forces to hostilities. Troops must be withdrawn after 60 days (plus 30 for safe exit) without congressional approval via declaration of war or specific authorization.
Congress has formally declared war only 11 times, last in World War II. Presidents often act first under their Commander-in-Chief powers (Article II), with Congress authorizing via resolutions, like post-9/11 for Afghanistan and Iraq. The 60-day clock has rarely enforced withdrawal.
In February 2026, Congress debated war powers resolutions after President Trump's unauthorized strikes on Iran, but such votes often fail to limit actions. Operations like those against Houthis exceeded 60 days without new approval
If it had been another US president, I might have been less reluctant.
Why have I feeling if the US under Obama or Biden had attacked Iran we would have a few posters on here singing a markedly different tune.
Iran could become another Venezuela, where Trump steals their oil and stores the proceeds in an offshore tax-free account. I see Trump more like these authoritarian ego-maniacs that the Middle East have, rather than conventional politicians from the West.
I can't see it. For the current regime in Iran they would prefer death than to accept a Venezuelan style subservience to the US, their not going to agree to cooperate.
Iran has really shot itself in the foot by attacking civilian areas in neighbouring countries that have no involvement. If America and Israel attacked them, they could try defend themselves. Why attack other countries- especially civilian areas? Surely, a better strategy for Iran would be to try to get other Arab countries to side with them, rather than against them.
Iran was immensely stupid to attack it's Arab neighbours. The other Arab countries were never going to side with Iran but as they feared the fallout of what might happen if Iran collapsed they would of likely tried to lobby the US to end the attacks. Now with Iran attacking them they will be far less inclined to do so.
Mozart, what you’re saying makes no sense at all. You talk about negotiating with Iran for 45 years like that means anything real.
We’ve seen endless talks before, and still nothing changes...but that doesn’t suddenly make bombing another nation okay and justified.
Saying “deploy force only when there’s an imminent threat” sounds fine on paper... but what imminent threat are you actually talking about here??
Because there’s no evidence Iran was about to attack the U.S. The Pentagon itself told Congress there was no sign of a planned Iranian attack first before the U.S. and Israel started bombing.
Now you switch to “Iran has long range missiles” like that automatically justifies war.
U.S. intelligence assessments show Iran is years away from missiles that could strike the U.S. directly.
So if Trump decides any buildup equals imminent threat, then he can just make up reasons to attack anyone he wants whenever he wants...
like South Africa tomorrow because Ramaphosa pissed him off or South America the next day. Or Greenland after that. That’s not logic. That’s unchecked power.
And you say Iran refused to negotiate? That’s also half truth. There were serious talks happening and progress on some points, but as soon as Trump doesn’t get everything he wants, he drops diplomacy and bombs anyway.
So if you really believe diplomacy should work, why are you cheering when bombing replaces it?
Let’s get real: you’re defending a guy who lied blatantly about stopping wars, just so he can become president again.
Now that he regained power, he is showing his true colours and started a massive strike in Iran. Where is his so called peace talks and prosperity gone?
Now again innocent Muslims and young American Soldiers must die...and for what?? Stop twisting your words and answer the question...
Easy for you to justify bloodshed when you don't have to go and fight...typical Trump supporter hypocrisy.
Imagine a leader that fights his own dirty fraudulent Battles, Wouldn't that be a sight!!
Donald Trump and Putin are the real threats in this world.
Trump and Putin is sitting on the biggest nuclear arsenals on Earth with long range missiles and both are itching to bomb anyone they want. Authoritarian War Mongering fools.
So why are you saying Iran must be stripped of missiles when they don’t even have missiles that can hit the U.S. but America already does?
Why should this loose cannon be allowed to sit there with that huge arsenal?
If you want to say missiles should be taken away, then take America's missiles away too. Especially with there history of unprovoked bloodshed.
So don’t pretend there’s a clear, honest reason for this war. There isn’t one.
You’re just parroting the same old excuses that sound good until you actually look at what’s happening. Keep your hypocrisy. I’m talking reality.
Anger slopes back in after avoiding the Rubio string for days……welcome back.
That would be a valid point if only for the fact the US and Iran did reach an agreement back in 2015.
Yes and Iran went right on enriching uranium
You make it sound like there is only these two extreme options, strike now or wait till Iran has the ability to flatten cities anywhere in the world assuming that's something Iran even wants to have.
Okay strike later, in the meantime allow them to commit the atrocities to opposition protestors we have just wittnessed. Iran is a classic example of why the UN was created, for the world to deal with aberrant regimes. Unfortunately that unpleasant duty almost always falls to America, because the UN is all but useless,
But those Wokies who are rightly so outraged about the Ukraine are oddly silent on Iran. My theory is most Woke outrage is mostly anti Trump outrage. There is far more anti Trump material on here than anti Putin material. Hypocrites.
There is not another Presidnt like Obma and the Autopen who took bribes from Iran to keep them happy and do nothing about the conduct of the Ayarolah regime and itds deadly trerrorist programs worldwide, In Africa it is all over the show with wars in a string of countries i ncuding Mozambique a;; thee ay North and in the Mideast - all sponsored by the Ayarollah Regime.
Obam did nothing aboutr what was happenng - when the Regime in Syria he said he is ddrawing a red line - but did nothing about the redline because he wanted to get a nuclear treaty with Iran and got one they never kept. When Trump froze the Iran assets based on an act pased by Congress - Biden sent Kelly to Teheran toa rrange a dea buying support by the Ayatollah Regme amongst the Muslim voters in exchange for unfreezing dollar payments to Iran. That releases resulted in billion of dollars released and used for funding terrorism all over te world.
For 18 months Trup tried negtotiatiosn witht eh Iran Regime and it ent nowhere, When rotests erupted in Iran the Ayatolah regime inported Farsi speaking terrorists from Afghanistan and Pakistan to attack and murder protestors in Iran. They were used to murder people in Iran - especially encloves of Kurds and Armenians in Iran,
Terrorism is upsetting many countries in the world and that is not goin g to continue unlimitly worldwide and funding from Iran will continue all over the world, The people on site does not realize what is happening and ty and attack Trump because he forsee what s hapening,
Some membrs mon because I stated the obviopus - they hated Trump and as a result he did the u nforgivenable by acting against terrorism and hatred spread by the regime in Teheran. They would rather see terrorism and killing of people worldwide than see aq change that would prevent it.
The people of Iran are clebrating the attack on the Ayaollah regiime and so does Iranian refugees that fled from that coubntry - yet they support the regime they want to do nothing about, So let them live in their delirium of civil wars and terrorism supported and funded by the terrorist dicttrorhip - which they claim thy do not support. How people van live with that type of BS only they obviously support is unbelievable.
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NATO just announced they will not join the attacks alongside America and Israel. The UK government also confirmed this today. This is an attack, not a defence.
So M why weren’t you on here deploring the protestor massacres in Iran if this is all so precious to you…just another anti Trump zealot. I must say I’m surprised. But if Trump were another President the whole Iran enrichment program would be intact. And if you don’t think they would threaten a nuclear response if they had the capability after their attacks on Arab neighbors this weekend, you are naive. So why no outrage about those attacks.huh, talk about hypocrisy.
Context:
As of March 2, 2026, NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte stated there are "absolutely no plans" for the alliance to join the U.S. and Israel in military operations against Iran, despite praising the actions as essential to degrading Iran's nuclear and missile capabilities
. NATO as a body will not be involved.
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Key Details regarding NATO's position on Iran (March 2026):
Although some European leaders, such as Germany's, have expressed limitations on their participation in the conflict, the overarching message from NATO is one of non-participation by the organization itself.
