Tucker Carlson . . .

I never liked this man when he was a Bozo suck-up . . . which he was for a number of years . . . but I've just watched this video and he speaks for me now.

Watch this, I urge you.

This is exactly why, in today's politic I have much more respect for the right. They are willing to fracture on principle and don't simply close ranks and agree even when they actually don't.

He's angry at Israel and he is a total non interventionist...hates the fact that America is involved in the ME... he's been constantly like that, that's why he supported Trump...he sees the current war as a betrayal...will listen when I have time, thanks... haven't watched him for a while.

I watched that from start to finish. There were times when Tucker's ads were interrupted by Youtube ads and it's a long watch, but it is compelling proof that Bozo is a dangerous clown being advised by a very small group of hand-picked sycophants.

Tucker has always been an honest journo. That's been my impression anyway. Nobody is ever right 100% of the time but if they're honest about what they think then I can get behind them.

But if he speaks for you now then perhaps it's worth going back and watching him talk about COVID and also Russia.

Ummm . . . no, that's not the case at all. Tucker was a Trumpanzee once, right?

Yes?

So wouldn't it be fair to say that Tucker has come around to my way of thinking?

I don't know what your way of thinking is other than that you dislike everything Trump does.

Would be nice if Trump never existed because he's currently the full stop that punctuates every conversation and it's been that way for too long.

I guess I'm just bored of hearing the exact same opinions on him repeated infinitely.

"Ummm . . . no, that's not the case at all. Tucker was a Trumpanzee once, right?

Yes?

So wouldn't it be fair to say that Tucker has come around to my way of thinking?"

No not really...only on the issues pertaining to Iran, Israel and American military intervention...and that was always his stance, Tucker was never a Trupanzee, he supported Trump when their views aligned...Tucker didn't change, Trump's actions did.

Absolute rubbish.

Tucker was a full-on card-carrying official Trumpanzee who even supported Bozo after Jan 6th and joined in the "rigged election" bullshit.

Credit to him for seeing the light but let's not pretend he wasn't just another Bozo suck-up at one point.

Has anyone watched the video?

No, not rubbish...those who've actually listened to him over the years would know this...and we saw the shift happening in real time...

What shift are you talking about, Draad?

"Tucker was never a Trupanzee, ....."

Ag Jirre!!!

I'm don't agree with your take on Tucker.

To my mind, he's always said what he believes and hasn't shied away from facts.

As I recall he was let go from Fox because he didn't agree with the Dominion voting machine accusations. On air he was asking questions about the machines but behind the scenes he was reportedly calling the accusations false. To me that says that Fox wanted him to push a particular narrative, one that any blind follower of Trump would happily push, but he wasn't buying it and it lead to him getting fired. I actually recall some of his reporting at the time and while he was on air asking questions about the machines and covering elements around the scepticism, he was apparently not accusatory of Dominion enough for Fox's liking.

But here's the problem. From the Trump hating perspective, nothing Trump has ever said or done is correct and none of it ever had good consequences. And that would mean that anybody that agreed with Trump or supported what he was doing at a particular time, was then a "Trumpanzee" for the time period/s that they agreed with what he was doing.

Take COVID as an example. Trump was pushing for Wuhan to be looked at, and I fully agree with that point, and so did Tucker. But the "scientists" acting entirely unscientifically said the lab leak hypothesis was both racist and a conspiracy theory. So, if you agreed with Trump and felt that ALL potential origins of the virus should be investigated with the same unbiased scientific approach... you're a Trumpanzee. If you you felt that the political establishment was to cosy with the deep state and you feel that those ties need to be severed...you're a Trumpanzee. Forgetting of course that this is exactly why the American people voted for Trump in the first place, because he was an outsider who didn't appear to have those connections. Again, something i fully agreed with.

Once you remove Trump's personality and look at things he did and has tried to do, for me it doesn't matter who it was, I'd have been onboard with a lot of them. Not all of them, but a lot of them and I;m happy to list many of them here. And i feel that many of you Trump haters would also have been onboard had it not specifically been Trump doing those things.

My conclusion is that people cannot look past Trump. I do find it ironic, Rooi, that you seem to suggest that "Trumpanzees" can see no wrong in what Trump does, while at the same time I can ask you to find me a any post from yourself, Denise, Blo, Stav or Shark that praises anything that that he has done which ended up with positive outcomes. Of course, I can very easily find you posts from the people you claim are "Trumpanzees" that do in fact criticise Trump. Hell, I've posted a good deal of them, and also shared videos and links that criticise him.

So, I've got to ask, because i know you're pretty logical, who would appear to be the most reasonable, and even if not objective to a degree that you might approve of, indeed more objective that the list of Trump haters i named above?

To me, in an battle of Trumpanzees and TDS sufferers, on balance, the TDS sufferers need to take much harder and much longer look in the mirror than the "Trumpanzees" do.

Tucker was a Bozo suck-up. Just go back and look what he had to say about Jan 6th if you don't believe me.

Tucker has finally seen through Bozo and now you guys are trying to pretend I've switched to Tucker's way of thinking when the opposite is clearly true.

Let Draad answer the question . . . what "shift" is he referring to?

The Trumpanzee species are the TDS sufferers. Apparenly Trump has a 100% approval ratings amongist the MAGA part of the conservative voters. Only cults have that type of support.

Once inflation goes up again, that might make a dent in the MAGA base. Also, if there are boots on the ground, and it turns into another Vietnam. So far, America is just making long-range pot shots with minimal risk of deaths. They have better weapons than Iran, so it is a no-risk situation. Only neutral countries in the Middle-east at at risk from Iran's counterattack.

Tucker Carlson is not a real media person. He is entertainment, with very loose connections to facts.

Tucker does not believe much of the stuff he spouts.

When he promoted election conspiracies in the media, he went to court for Fox News and said that he did not believe any of it. Ditto with Shawn Hannity. Tucker is also vaccinated, but he was happy to make money spinning vaccine conspiracies - some of his viewers were not vaccinated in part due to this misinformation.

Tucker has increasingly become critical of Israel and the people in the US government lobbying for Israeli interests...go watch his interview with Ted Cruz ...yes he was for Trump in the 2024 elections and yes he questioned some of the things about the 2020 elections, but also criticized Trump for going too far after the 2020 results.

He was a Trumpanzee. If you can't see that then there's no point debating this any further.

At least he's seen the light at long last.

It's not debating to just put a label on someone without going into details...he supported Trump against Harris ...he will do something similar in the future... support the things he agree with and be vocal about the things he doesn't agree with.

He suported Bozo's pathetic crybaby antics after he lost the 2020 election. That should tell you everything you need to know.

There are serious problems with election integrity in the USA... highlighting the problems is his job...he didn't support all Trump's actions after the election...

BTW, Trump's antics after the 2020 elections pales in comparison to what Obama and Hillary did after 2016... you're just too blinded by your hatred to see that.

So the argument is the US goes in and gets tar babied by the oldest extant civilization in the region. But that argument implies boots on the ground. Thus far there are none. All the US and Israel have done so far is massively degrade their military infrastructure and uranium enrichment capability.

Many feel this is unnecessary but in just the last few days we have seen the legal murder of 3 young demonstrators and the launching of ballistic missiles at an Indian Ocean base 2500 miles away, a distance that puts London in range from Western Iran.

These two recent acts underscore the 2 primary reasons to weaken this regime, its human rights atrocities and its threat to world security. This is a nation that has already enriched uranium to levels only needed in bombs and has demonstrated access to long range missiles. When the country with the third richest oil reserves is a terrorist nation and has this history, it’s wise to be afraid.

But the Tucker/ Joe Kent argument is about starting another Iraq, getting bogged down in Iran. Trump, however, keeps pushing allies to get involved and keeps saying boots on the ground is not the plan. The job of delaying Iran’s nuclear bomb ambitions can be done by air. That leaves the collateral issue of the Strait of Hormuz.

But Trump is very clear, that’s a much bigger issue for others, so they need to step up and support the effort. That was met with a lot of hee hawing. But Trump keeps saying the same thing, the countries who take most of the oil through Hormuz may have to step up and if they do the global noose around Iran will tighten.

And in the last 24 hours Trump has started to say the military campaign is nearly over, and leave the impression that he is not intent of fixing the Strait without help. It may not be service as usual from America, but some of these same nations sent forces to Greenland to protect it from America. They have done some provocative things.

It appears Tucker and his mate, and a whole bunch of European leaders might have just totally misunderstood the play.

Nooo, but Orange man bad, we don't side with Iran, but America bad and should do nothing to a "sovereign" country....sovereign my big honky arse.. it's about time the world did something about their nonsense...pity the rest of the free world doesn't the balls to do anything consequential about it...

If it was Obama it would all be fine...see Libya for details.

"It appears Tucker and his mate, and a whole bunch of European leaders might have just totally misunderstood the play."

Except Tucker's "mate" was probably the human being on the planet best placed and best qualified to know if Iran was actually a threat or not.

The whole "imminent threat" lie remains the reason Bozo and Hegsuck went to war, right . . . or have I missed a major press conference that said otherwise?

What majopr confernce says aotherioisde. Who is the people saying ohewise?

Th faact is that 25 nations ahs nw said hey will send ships to guard the Persian Gulf and Hormuz. The fact is the Iran Government is not a reliable Government. They promoe errorism and C ivil war and provide funding and arms to terrorists especially in the ME and in Africa.

Irn hs a vey dangerous theological ideology that sia constant th reat to World Peace - but also is opressive of its own people. Trump will n allow any gound troops to the War - becase hat was what happeed in Iraq and Afghanistan.

What this lo on site does notrealize is that diplomatically Iran was left in the lurch by both Russia and China, That mans the wo countries also realiz he hreat posed by the Ayatollah Regime - with nobody on this sie realize what is going on in reality.

The act is that Europe is totaly depending ol oil and gas on the ME and Russia. Tump - wit h the aid of the ME countries has stoped the Gaza War and the end of he Civil War in Syria, S audi A rabaia has requested him to get the ending of he Civil War in Iran. Millions of people died in Iran, Syria, S udan and Irann iself caused by the Ayatollah Regime - which posed a threat against all countries in the ME and Africa.

The hing the Trump haters do not realize s that the relationship between t he USA and Iran flourished through bribnery and corruption under both the Obama and Biden Presidencies - making both being regarded by the ME counries being under consatnt threat, When the allied Assad doictatorship in Damascu ued poison gas during the Syrian Civl War - Obama declared that it si the red ine Syria must not repeat - he did nothing when they did repeat it,

In both the Obama and Biden presidencioes corruption played a major role. In te case of he Nuclear A rms settlement brbery played a major role. In teh 1970's the Iran Government ordered and paid $400 milion for provision of jet fighters to Iran. The money was frozen when the Iran Government became openly hostile to the USA and caused the occupation of the USA embassy in Teheran. To get Iran to sign the fake Nuclear Arms Treaty - Obama undertook topay Iran $1.,8 billion when unfreezing the $400 million paid to he USA in the 190's. The US Government stated tha Iran was paid$1,8 billion - the Iran Gpvernment in 2021 claimed they only received in fact $1,432 billion - the rest of he money disapeared into thin air - woth both the Ayatollah Regime and US poiticians benefitting from it.

In fact is that since 1977 internaional opil trade was funded in US Dollars, In 2018 Con gress approved that all such dollars will be frozen in future, The first Trm Presidency enorced that law - Biden ignored it, Bu Bden in pactic ignored that Law and released hundreds f Billions of frozen money to Iran. It was caime that Biden used shell companies for corupt payments to his family and to USA politicians amf that si now being ivestigated. In Septmber 2023 Biden sent Kerry to Iran to get their help in the 2024 eection. Biden undertook to unfreeze dollars for the benefit of Iran - while Iran promised to promote tthe Biden eleion by Mulim prpaganda in the Muslim Community in the USA and the Iran Govenment spent millions promoting the Biden election in the media and in mosques. In some states like Michgan and Minnesota tha vote swing resuts in favor of Biden,

Corruption in USA politics were sponsored by the Ayatollah Regime since 2011 and Trump became a major assassination eetof that Regime. That is a fact as well.

Eey attack on Trump was sponsored by elements in the U SA and European Press nd when hey se memebrs obsessessed by Hatred of Trump - they came up with otal BS far removed from realiy and suckers on stie fell 100% for it, The hatred of Trump is all they come up with. - so in hei logic the A ytollah Regime is no thret to anybody and nothing must b done against it.

i do not agree wit some of he things Trump espouses, I do not agree wit his attitude t the Canadian G ovenmnt and onm Greenland. Tump is right about the fake policies of the Governments of fhe UK and NATO . NATO became a arce - depending totally on he USA to protect ther countries and trade routs. The USA and NA TO countries broke their own sanctions on Russia and although they claimed they sanctioned Russia they broke teh sanctions and the War in Ukraine is still going on as a result,

If the empty heasded Harris - whose h usband is a contract employee of China won the 2024 eelction Shina would have already occupoied Taiwan and South Korea and patent thets on atacking A ustraia soul hav been on the csards,

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