Iran’s toll on ships going through international waters…

As long as they insist on holding the world randsom... persistence.

But hang on, that's exactly what they've been doing to little or no effect.

What do you think will be different this time? Bigger bombs? Softer targets?

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Iran will never give up, so striking them would just amount to ethnic cleansing.

The art of the deal was played. He said that Iran's proposal was workable.

Whoever gives the peace terms wins, because by accepting the terms offered by Iran, it is basically a surrender.

Invading a country and then accepting its terms is a joke.

Iran has many nuclear facilities, mostly underground. So finding them is almost impossible.

In the meantime, Iran is probably developing a nuke.

It may even be possible that they will have a working nuke within months.

And how long will that take?

How long is a piece of string...

What do you think will be different this time? Bigger bombs? Softer targets?

I assume bigger bombs, yes

"I assume bigger bombs, yes"

I suspect one of the reasons Bozo was so quick to grab this ceasefire opportunity is because he was running out of bombs.

He does still have some very big bombs . . . bombs that could blow an entire civilization away. Are those the bombs you have in mind?

Occupying any Muslim country is a mistake, they aren’t persuadable. Declare Iran a rogue nation and as such one that has forfeited the right to a military. Take out any military activity from the air, reserve the right to inspect any imports at sea and embargo if necessary. Use ground force to secure a corridor of 50 miles around the Strait.

Continue that indefinitely.

MAGA must be the disposable ground force to achieve strategic global objectives. Then they must maintain the 50 square miles territory around the Straight. Their deaths will be honoured.

Iran would no longer be able to export oil, their primary source of income. The economy would collapse and drive the Arabs even further radical.

Even still, with Putin's upgraded Drones, they could travel more than 50 miles. Ukraine's drones can travel thousands of miles to strike any target within Russia. Ukraine has also hit moving targets - empty oil tankers returning from transit.

It is somewhat ironic... Generative AI has been developed in America - but Russia were the first to use AI in the battlefield against Ukraine by upgrading Iran's drones. America went into the battle not prepared for AI warfare. It has changed the complexion of the battle field. The I have a bigger gun than yours, is no longer the state of play.

Drones now account for 80% of Ukraine's casualties

https://www.army-technology.com/news/drones-now-account-for-80-of-casualties-in-ukraine-russia-war/

You missed the string on the Bullfrog ….Drones can now be shot down for minimum cost using low tech, AI directed machine guns.

"You missed the string on the Bullfrog ….Drones can now be shot down for minimum cost using low tech, AI directed machine guns."

That's still theory. It hasn't been proven and, if it has, why aren't they using them already?

It’s in between, a recent development that hasn’t been deployed yet but is working flawlessly in tests. One of the military benefits of this US exposure to drones is the counter measure will be found and rebalance the battlefield. Unfortunately it may not be good for the Ukraine

Ukraine where shooting down drowns with truck mounted machines guns at the start of the war, then Russia started using drones that where faster and travelled much higher but dropping virtually straight down on the target effectively by passing machine gun defences.

There is the also the issue of the sheer number of drones. In terms of the small drones Russia and Ukraine are making 4-5 million of them a year. That's not included the larger Shahed drones, Russia launch something like 33,000 of them at Ukraine alone last year. Though in recent developments Ukraine has started to fire more drones into Russia than Russia is firing into Ukraine.

I'm sure like every weapons system another system will be developed to counter it. But it takes times to develop, mass produce and deploy them and then a learning period to figure out how to best use them.

And the US military isn’t aware of that development….but you are? A bit arrogant. The change is the machine guns are now AI controlled, there is no human interface.

It’s quite possible drones will evolve as well but Iranian drones are flying at 115 mph and the fastest drones fly at 400 mph….machine gun bullets have a muzzle velocity of 2000 plus mph and a terminal velocity of 120mph. What that means is they are way faster than drones for much of their flight. And a single gun can fire up to 100 rounds per second.

AI now provides instant targeting of drones, no lag and within a certain range they are sitting ducks. The issue becomes coverage, but high value installations can be covered.

Effectively you were out of date, but now you are schooled

". . . but now you are schooled"

Just when I thought we were having a civil discussion, Mozart's obsessive one-upmanship gets the better of him again.

Pathetic.

Trump: Iran has 'no cards' at the negotiation table

Donald Trump has taken yet another swing at Iran before the countries meet at the negotiation table over the weekend.

"The Iranians don’t seem to realize they have no cards, other than a short term extortion of the World by using International Waterways," he said on his Truth Social platform.

"The only reason they are alive today is to negotiate!"

Just a minute beforehand, Trump had posted a different message, saying Iran was better at "public relations" than "fighting".

Nice weekend for J.D.Trans in Pakistan with the Iranian negotiators. Maybe they will abduct him as a trophy.

So Rooinek we are supposed to see the humor in the posts slagging off Melania Trump after a clearly from the heart address. But if I say ‘schooled’ to Anger, a claim he has made to me many times in various ways, it’s every man to the pumps?

You have a very selective sense of decorum.

Melanoma Trump is a public figure and besides, she'll never read my post.

Stav is a fellow poster and someone you've interacted with every day for years.

Spot the difference.

Just a minute beforehand, Trump had posted a different message, saying Iran was better at "public relations" than "fighting".

We've come to accept that his statements change daily. Apparently, it's what he's good at—chaos keeps the opposition on their toes.

For example, we’ve won the war and wiped out their nuclear capability...LOL

He set a quiet fracture where the old lines used to be,

And found no echo rising back, but something like reprieve.

It lingered, faint and stubborn, where his sharper edges stayed

So sideways words slipped out instead, when straighter ones delayed.

And the US military isn’t aware of that development….but you are? A bit arrogant. The change is the machine guns are now AI controlled, there is no human interface.

Where did I say they weren't. Yes I'm sure A.I will help. But machine guns calibre amunitoin have limited range. Shahed for example can still fly above the range of the ammunition travel.

You stated.

Drones can now be shot down for minimum cost using low tech, AI directed machine guns.

You should caveated that as demonstrated in a test environment of a weapons system that isn't ready for large scale deployment. Just asking A.I it gives a time line of one to three years for mass production of the weapons system, assuming the order was given today for mass production.

Just when I thought we were having a civil discussion, Mozart's obsessive one-upmanship gets the better of him again.

I just laugh at it now. It's actually hilarious a grown adult actually acts like this. I know children who have more cop on than him.

recent developments confirm low-cost, AI-directed systems using existing machine guns can effectively shoot down drones for as little as $10 per intercept. These solutions address the imbalance where cheap drones (often under $2,000) previously overwhelmed expensive missile defenses.

Key System: Bullfrog

AI machine gun turret

Allen Control Systems' Bullfrog mounts AI-driven sensors, computer vision, and robotics onto standard machine guns like the M240, enabling autonomous detection, tracking, and neutralization of small to Group 3 drones up to 800 meters away. It uses passive sensors and edge AI trained on vast datasets for precise targeting, minimizing ammo waste with predictive firing. The US Marines, Army, Navy, and Special Operations Command have adopted it, inspired by Ukraine-Russia drone warfare.

This turret weighs under 200 lbs, runs on 24V DC for vehicle integration, and offers human-in/out-of-loop modes for safety.

Cost Breakdown

Bullfrog achieves ~$10 per drone kill via cheap 7.62mm rounds (pennies each) and efficient bursts, versus millions for missiles against $1,000-30,000 drones. Russian and Ukrainian forces also deploy similar AI machine gun setups for suicide drone intercepts.

Broader Impact

These "low-tech" upgrades (repurposing WWII-era guns with modern AI) shift counter-drone tactics toward kinetic point defense, proven in conflicts like Ukraine where humans struggle against agile UAVs. Proliferation raises concerns over lowered warfare barriers due to affordability

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From what I have read, America has been using very expensive ways to stop drones.

They could have got this in place before attacking Iran, thus emphasising that they entered a war not prepared for AI

Ukraine pioneered the practical battlefield concept of AI-directed machine guns for drone defence in 2023, predating Bullfrog's public debut.

No, there are no confirmed reports of the US deploying Bullfrog or similar AI-directed machine guns specifically in the ongoing Iran conflict. US forces have heavily integrated other AI systems like Maven and Claude for targeting, intelligence, and logistics, enabling rapid strikes on thousands of Iranian targets.

Bullfrog Deployment Status

Bullfrog systems are in production and testing phases with US Marines, Army, Navy, SOCOM, and integrated on platforms like Abrams tanks and Bradley IFVs, primarily against Shahed-like drones. Contracts were signed in 2025, with exports to allies like South Korea and UAE, but usage remains in trials or non-Iran theaters—no battlefield footage or official statements confirm Iran deployment as of April 2026.

Iran Conflict Context

The US-Iran war, starting late February 2026 with Operation Epic Fury, features widespread AI for data analysis and airstrikes but focuses on high-end munitions over kinetic gun defenses. Drone threats exist (e.g., Iranian Shaheds), yet coverage emphasizes missiles and autonomous drones rather than Bullfrog. Social media mentions hint at early conflict use, but lack verification.

Bullfrog Deployment Status

Bullfrog systems are in production and testing phases with US Marines, Army, Navy, SOCOM, and integrated on platforms like Abrams tanks and Bradley IFVs, primarily against Shahed-like drones. Contracts were signed in 2025, with exports to allies like South Korea and UAE, but usage remains in trials or non-Iran theaters—no battlefield footage or official statements confirm Iran deployment as of April 2026.

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So Rooinek my comment of ‘schooled’ is more offensive than:

Stavanger1Rugby Legend

4,401 posts

Mar 18, 2026, 21:25

About the time I had to start pulling it out of your arse and had to hand you the Vaseline.

and the response to a statement many would say is not unreasonable

The tragedy of this Western division is that the real winners are Iran, Russia and China. They’re working together to defeat the U.S. in the Gulf and weaken American deterrence.

The sheer f**king stupidity of this sentence, who created the division you dimwit hack...take responsibility for your actions.

and this:

It will be paid for by the world you idiot.. Europe actually doesn't get a lot of oil directly from that part of the world... but restricting supply anywhere in the world means the price goes up for everyone

and this:

Again up in the ivory tower, looking down at the plebs

Or this pathetic response when his $300 trillion gift to a country with a $180 trillion net worth was debunked

Stavanger1Rugby Legend

4,401 posts

Apr 06, 2026, 20:30

ROLF... you can just tell the desperation in Moz's posts as he frantically tries to convince himself he didn't just getting utterly owned. He's going be smarting from this one for a long time to come.

Owned… I guess in your world Rooinek that’s less offensive than schooled

or this ‘bit of pathetic one- upmanship’

Well when I'm speaking to people of the intellectual calibre of you and Draad and those in the MAGA sphere, I really got to dumb down my arguments into something you can understand. But it's a pretty hopeless task if I'm being honest

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I could go on documenting more remarks that you apparently regard as less incendiary than ‘schooled’. But I think that makes the point. My conclusion is you agree with his viewpoints and so the snide arrogance of almost every post he makes doesn’t register. Or worse, you have registered it but for partisan reasons can’t bring yourself to be critical.

"Well when I'm speaking to people of the intellectual calibre of you and Draad and those in the MAGA sphere, I really got to dumb down my arguments into something you can understand. But it's a pretty hopeless task if I'm being honest"

LOL...not a honest bone in your body...sadly...but dumb it down even more so you can understand it too...

Mozart, my point was that for once we were having a civil discussion without any childish insults being thrown around and then you just couldn't help yourself and had to say you had schooled someone again.

That's all.

"Mozart, my point was that for once we were having a civil discussion without any childish insults being thrown around and then you just couldn't help yourself and had to say you had schooled someone again."

Will you be doing the same unbiased moderating on all threads you're involved in?

I'd welcome the calling out of childish insults and belittling responses to posts that aren't childish, insulting or belittling.

Asking for a friend.

So Rooinek my comment of ‘schooled’ is more offensive than:

LOL your obsession with me continues.

How long would I be here if I was to quote all the times you tried to one up someone.

I remember shortly after I started posting on here, other posters warned me about your arrogant, pompous nature so you've been clearly at it for a long time.

Asking for a friend.

Ain't going happen. If this forum was moderated, most of the content would be removed for not being relevant to the topic or trolling

Rooi's moderation is not "official" nor would it result in anything being removed.

More of a bit of unbiased moral moderation resulting in call-outs.

No permission or qualifications needed.

So the question stands. Does Rooi undertake to moderate and call out people that ruin threads with insults, trolling, irrelevance, etc?

Or was this one-time thing?

I hope not because I'd like to see some unbiased moderation and call-outs.

Here's hoping.

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hope not because I'd like to see some unbiased moderation and call-outs.

grow up

I hope not because I'd like to see some unbiased moderation and call-outs.

Here's hoping.

Alright, tell you what, I'm game if you're game. No insults, no call outs, no one upmanship, no thread derailments. Lets just stick to debating in civil manner. Lets see if anyone else follows suit.

I was simply asking if Rooi wishes to continue his unbiased moderation and stating that I hope he does.

You, of course, are welcome to continue to behave in any way that you deem fit, necessary or feel emotionally compelled to.

I would support a sober, reflective tone of debate on here. No use of terms like Bozo or Melanoma or MAGA. I’m thinking right wing and left wing are also incendiary.

For my part I will always use ‘owned’ instead of the disgusting ‘schooled’ which I admit has probably caused psychological damage to some of our more fragile posters.

And I promise to read all five posts that will hopefully appear every day on the more sober Mikes Gripes.

Oh and no more videos except on rugby or emojis.

So in summary I have nothing against insults, bitter debates or conflict. Except when it is directed at a poster who can’t defend himself, involves family or is clearly intended to inflict some kind of psychological damage. Debates like the one on the Bullfrog force the participants to do some helpful research. There are many numbers, dates, policies, events I now know, which I didn’t before.

But the debates need to be honest and preferably less emotional. Fact based, quantitative and hopefully humorous. Not unnecessarily nasty, hysterical and smug.

And occasionally, it’s not a sign of weakness to agree with your opponents point, especially when that opponent is me.

Seriously these brief moments of unanimity clearly create a bit of joy, no disgrace in that.

"Ain't going happen. If this forum was moderated, most of the content would be removed for not being relevant to the topic or trolling"

It is moderated very slightly... I like it the way it is ...if they started to moderate it like what you describe, it will die a sudden death.