This is not just kicking the can down the road; it is making problems worse for those in the future.
That’s why I pushed for a regime change which was never going to happen, and like I’ve said before, the war was nothing more than a temporary fix.
The toxic regime will regroup and rebuild causing all sorts of problems in the middle east.
With $350B in the kick why wouldn't they!?
If the whole point is to stop Iran having nukes because they are dangerous, and then threatening to nuke Iran if they dont concede defeat pretty much destroys the whole American argument. And, especially - given America are the only country to have nuked a country (Japan). It seems ironic that they can decide who has nukes, and who does not.
Yes, no one wants Iran with a nuclear bomb, but this disaster by Trump is not helping. He threatened to nuke Iran a few times already, in addition to threats of destroying civil energy and water. If that is not an incentive to get a nuke, then I dont know what is.
This was another war about oil; the nuclear stuff was just a pretext motive. The goal was to somehow increase oil prices for China, or just reduce oil supply.
The goal was to somehow increase oil prices for China, or just reduce oil supply.
Interesting....I never looked at it from that point of view.
One thing for sure it was never about the Iranian people being liberated from the horror of living under the regime.
"Help is on the way' was just Bullshit. I also wonder how many young Iranians took Trump at his word and then ended up being. executed.
When madmen take over the topic and distort it reoponse is not of vallue - it just cost further distorted lunacy by even mentioning things the distoreted minds cannot absorb.
Tx for your response Mike, you can now head to your room and cry yourself to sleep.
"The goal was to somehow increase oil prices for China, or just reduce oil supply. (No, just level the playing field... it's stacked in their favor ATM)
Interesting....I never looked at it from that point of view.
One thing for sure it was never about the Iranian people being liberated from the horror of living under the regime. (Of course that's part of it too.)
"Help is on the way' was just Bullshit. I also wonder how many young Iranians took Trump at his word and then ended up being. executed."
It's a multifacit problem...
What we know is happening is ships are exiting the Strait of Hormuz and pipelines are being built to bypass Hormuz. It’s not clear ships are going back into the Strait any time soon
The lines have been drawn...the gig is up...their toy has been taken away...they just hasn't realized it yet...
Don’t get your hopes up—Iran will continue to be a persistent and troubling issue as long as the current regime remains in power, and true stability in the Middle East will remain out of reach.
It's the nature of the beast.
Denny
Iran was a real thrat to all ME countries as was pro/ven in Syria, Yemen and Lebanon. There was real fear am/omngst them that all countries azre under threat Knowing that the Autopen Regime was invovled corupt dealings with the Ayatollah Regme - Eqypt, Saido Arabia and the UAE applied fo admission to BRICS at the same time promoted membership of I>ran as well. That way they believe that they may freed from the Iran threat,
However - even before his inauguration the two main negotiators were already active in the ME, As a result the countries that joined BRICS and Turkey, Egypt and Qatar becam involved in negotiations as to ending of the Gaza War, Although Israe still cause sporadic problems the pepace is holdng and a civilian G overnment of experts as been formed Governing Gaza at present until an elected Parliament can take over Governing of the territory, G aza was systematatically destroyed by the wore between Israel and Gaza, - with Iran providuing eaponry ti HAMAS, Successful effort in evidence an even I>srael knows thet must not undermi.ne Trbump's When the treaty was fnalized
In th e case of the Syria Cvivl War with hundreds of thousands died - Iran had 41 000 troops suppoting the Assad Regime and Hezbollah - controlled and funded Iran had their miliary arm protecting Assad, The unsettled situation forced Tu,rkey - the country with the second strongest army in NATO tos top the rot/ They signed a peace agreement with the Kurds and the rebels captured Damascus wqithin days. The I>ran troops withdrew from Syria and with the help of Turrkey On the insitence of he Turlkish President the enw leader of Syria met wit h Trump and oit was agreed op exchange diplomatic ties between S uria and he USA, In fact Obama and Biden did zero to stop th e disaster in Syria - they wo/rsened it. When the Assad Regime used poison gas in the War - Obama stated publicly that it is a red line in the sand but they contrinued usin g gas and Obama dod nothing abou it,
In 2012 Obama withdrew all US troops from Iraq and by 2013 ISIS operatomng .in Northern Syria invaded Iraq and the only troops fighting ag ainst th em were the Kurds. The Iraq armym kept retreating and by 2014 Obama sent in 200 soldiers with th e isntruction that th ey do not get involved in actual fighting - they were purely training the Iraq army. When ISIS advances the result was that th e Iraq armym would flee from the battle areas and elve all equipm,ent behind. By 2-017 whn Trump took over po/wer in Washigton he sent in troops to wipe out ISIS abd they did so in th ree months time. The troops also entered S yria and killed the leader of ISIS - with the medi moaning about how a really good faher was killed by Trump. This refrain was repeated when Trump had Solemeini - the head of the Iran Revolutionary Guard - and also the head of h e Civil wars in Syria Yeman and Lebanon killed Trump was accused of murdering a great man known in Iran oself as the Butcher of Teheran.
When the Houthi's attacked sh ipping in the Red Sea in 2025 the NA YO members pleaded with TNrump to protect their shipping and he did hust that by bombing the Houthi army to near non-existence, and th attacks stopped, No t hank yopu, from the slapgat N ATO countries,
All the above weakened the Iran Regime and provided help to strengthen the ME countries alliance with the USA, In the end the insiustence of Qatar and Pakistan in the rpesent peace negittiations show that Trump is instgrumental a new ME Alliance to protet those countries and help woih rebuilding of hose copuntries and Gaza/
The fact is that even the Aymatollah Regim knows they are u,nder threat and for slef=protection purpo/ses t hey are forced t alow the USA to ensur Uranium enrichment invetigations and tos top their terrorism they were known for in oher ME countries, .
The fact is the e,dia hysteria are also reflectefd on this site, It ignore facts and the dosasters caused by O?bama and ZBiden that cau,sed h e eath of millions of epople in the ME, Af ter th e ceasefire agrement was signed the next phase of the negotiations kicked in. However Ian asked fo a two day delay to ge proposals and omments from the new Regime in Iran, and that delaym was protrayed by the media as an Iran insul of Trump - and the fnal agremeent will be co-sgned by all middle East countries Pakistan and Indonesia.
In the emantime the Ukraine War issue is still amajor difficulty to be so/l, The War has wded downa and some ceasefire agreents have been agreed on. Trump sent three nuclear powered and armed submarines into the Baltic Sea and started to stop the flo/w o/f Russian Oil and gas to NATO countries and once the Iran agreement has been signed the attention will be swithed to settle the Ukraine issue,
Trump used wqo negotiators o deal with issue and he is using Rubio and Vance to deal with the issues involved in the ME and in Ukraine, Si gns are that th e Ukraine War end within the enxt 4 months,
The fact is Obama was a corrupt show pony and Biden an equaly corrupt idiot. The Ukraine civil War started in 2014 when O?bama was President and th e fulkl war when Biden was President, Obama and the DP started the lies about th e Russian Hoax and that amde it very difficult to do something about the Civil War in Eastern Ukraine - bit now tat issue will also receive diec intervention by Trump and his team of expert negotiatiors.
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I couldn’t read your bible reading post, there simply isn’t enough time, I only have one lifetime not two
nogal at 5.39 am
oom I applaud your endurance
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Trump thought he had all the cards, but Iran played a strait.
Apparently military generals in America would have been well aware of this, but many had been fired before and during the start of the Iran campaign.
It was common knowledge that Iran could close the Strait, and bomb American military bases across the middle east.
"Trump thought he had all the cards, but Iran played a strait."
LMAO!
...all the glee and mirth...totally BATSHIT TDS.
Trump thought he had all the cards, but Iran played a strait.
The Bafana Bafana team calling the game before it’s over.
The Iran regime broke their only toy...they don't know it yet, but by the end of the Trump presidency, they'll be totally irrelevant.
Looks like the price of oil is going to increase again.
The US military has conducted strikes on Iranian targets after President Donald Trump accused Iran of a "foolish violation" of its truce following an attack on a cargo ship in the Strait of Hormuz.
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Trump thought he had all the cards, but Iran played a strait.
Saarkie ... brilliant
"Verse 1]
On a warm summer's evenin' on a train bound for nowhere
I met up with a gambler, we were both too tired to sleep
So we took turns a-starin' out the window at the darkness
'Til boredom overtook us and he began to speak
[Verse 2]
He said, "Son, I've made a life out of readin' people's faces
And knowin' what their cards were by the way they held their eyes
So if you don't mind my sayin', I can see you're out of aces
For a taste of your whiskey I'll give you some advice"
[Verse 3]
So I handed him my bottle and he drank down my last swallow
Then he bummed a cigarette and asked me for a light
And the night got deathly quiet and his face lost all expression
Said, "If you're gonna play the game, boy, you gotta learn to play it right"
[Chorus]
You got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em
Know when to walk away and know when to run
You never count your money when you're sittin' at the table
There'll be time enough for countin' when the dealing's done
[Verse 4]
Every gambler knows that the secret to survivin'
Is knowin' what to throw away and knowing what to keep
'Cause every hand's a winner and every hand's a loser
And the best that you can hope for is to die in your sleep
[Verse 5]
And when he finished speakin', he turned back toward the window
Crushed out his cigarette and faded off to sleep
And somewhere in the darkness, the gambler, he broke even
But in his final words, I found an ace that I could keep
[Chorus]
You got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em
Know when to walk away and know when to run
You never count your money when you're sittin' at the table
There'll be time enough for countin' when the dealing's done
[Outro]
You got to know when to hold 'em (When to hold 'em)
Know when to fold 'em (When to fold 'em)
Know when to walk away and know when to run
You never count your money when you're sittin' at the table
There'll be time enough for countin' when the dealing's done
You got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em
Know when to walk away and know when to run
You never count your money when you're sittin' at the table
There'll be time enough for countin' when the dealing's done"
The dealing's not done ...yet.
Nah, not going by the number of casinos Trompf's lost .
Shamepies to suggest otherwise.
No shame at all...check the numbers on the bottom line...
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In your world Bob, not in the real one...
The Strait is closed and that's a fact and it's clear that Iran has leverage over its closure not Trump, not the greatest military in the world, and that's another fact.
Tell you what else.......they're toying with your Messiah.
Go-on tell me I'm wrong.
They're trying OK... they're cutting everyone's nose to spite Trump... he'll spite them right back...he is immune to their petulant BS... we'll see who blinks first.
'.....he'll spite them right back...'
He's 'spited' them more than enough and he's been doing it for over 3 months......it's not working Draad, surely you can see that 'we're winning'...'destroyed their military'....'destroyed their navy'...'killed their leadership'......are the words of a clueless lunatic.
Iran controls the Strait and by so doing controls the economy of the world. He can't even wrest the Strait from their control.
Trump is stuck, he has no cards to play.
The mid-terms are looming and he was hoping in desperation to seal a BS deal before it happens.
Iran giving USA min-draad ... :--)
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June 28, 2026 3:56 pm ET
Vessels at the Strait of Hormuz on June 18. Reuters
The best selling point for President Trump’s memorandum of understanding with Iran was that at least it opened the Strait of Hormuz. Well, now the regime is trying to nullify those terms by using force against commercial vessels, Gulf states and U.S. bases. All of this violates the deal and calls into question why Mr. Trump signed it.
On Thursday Iran struck a container ship transiting the Strait with a drone. The U.S. responded on Friday with strikes on Iranian missile and drone storage sites and coastal radars. It announced the strike after markets closed as if to demonstrate the economic constraints on U.S. military action.
Iran then hit a tanker carrying Qatari crude. The U.S. retaliated again against Iranian military sites and has escorted oil tankers with heavy air cover. Iran then fired drones and missiles at civilian targets and U.S. bases in Bahrain and Kuwait.
“It is very possible that they will never learn,” Mr. Trump wrote of Iran’s regime on Saturday night. Or is it U.S. decision makers who never learn? Vice President JD Vance has been touting Iran’s “transformed” Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps leaders ready to “turn over a new leaf” with the U.S. He even reached “gentlemen’s agreements” with them outside the memorandum, Mr. Vance assured critics.
Well, these are no gentlemen. It’s the same terrorist regime, and this is the Battle of Hormuz that Mr. Trump thought he had ducked. In case there was any doubt, foreign minister Abbas Araghchi said Sunday that Iran is solely responsible for managing the Strait under the memorandum. He said “no other country has any responsibility in that regard.” Mr. Araghchi is Iran’s chief negotiator with Mr. Vance.
It wasn’t enough that Mr. Trump gave Iran an oil sanctions waiver without safeguards, promised billions of dollars in frozen assets and stopped sanctions enforcement. The regime wants to conquer the Strait and turn it into a toll booth, with transit by permission only. On a ship-by-ship basis, Iranian foreign policy would determine who crosses. This is the opposite of free navigation and provides no security for energy flows.
Force is the regime’s means to make the world bend. Without it, shippers refused to heed Iran’s dictates for Hormuz during the deal’s early days. Vessels sailed out via the Strait’s southern, Omani lane. Tehran’s demands that ships transit only through the Iranian lane, request access two days in advance, and sign up for special Iranian “insurance” were ignored. Oil prices fell far faster than most experts expected.
In short, the Strait wasn’t going Iran’s way. It was becoming free again—hence the regime’s resort to force. Iran is intimidating Oman and other Gulf states. It may also offer them a cut of the spoils from a tolled Strait, but that hardly sweetens the foul deal for the rest of the world.
The question is why Iran still gets the cash, selling its oil free of sanctions and repatriating the revenue to fund its Revolutionary Guard. If Mr. Trump isn’t ready to resume the U.S. blockade, he can amend Treasury’s sanctions-relief license to require that all proceeds from Iranian oil sales be placed in escrow.
The U.S. needs the leverage for nuclear negotiations, and it was never wise to give Iran a blank check. All the more so now that the regime isn’t respecting the deal, which mandates a cease-fire as well as Iran’s “best efforts for the safe passage of commercial vessels.” That means don’t shoot at them, for starters.
More U.S. “love taps” against Iranian targets won’t impress the hard men in Tehran. They behave as if they have escalation dominance because they think Mr. Trump won’t return to war before the midterm elections. They don’t believe Mr. Trump’s social-media bluster because they see his reluctance to enforce the cease-fire terms.
In the bigger strategic picture, the regime is leaving the President a choice: surrender Hormuz to Iranian terror or fight for it, like he always should have once he started the war, and reopen the Strait by force.
Journal Editorial Report: The week's best and worst from Kim Strassel, Joe Sternberg, Kyle Peterson, and Dan Henninger.
The Dire Straights?
Who broke t he agreement - Iran, Who will suffer as a result - Iran. Who is in charge in Iran - nobody knows.
Who broke t he agreement - Iran, Who will suffer as a result - Iran. Who is in charfge in Iran - no/bo/dy knows.
Who broke t he agreement - Iran, Who will suffer as a result - Iran. Who is in charfge in Iran - no/bo/dy knows.
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"Iran controls the Strait and by so doing controls the economy of the world. He can't even wrest the Strait from their control."
Nonsense, they threaten terrorism... that's not control...if they don't come to the party, none of their oil or anything else will pass through the strait...they need it to be open more than America does...the stuff that's going on now is all theater...the price of crude only increased slightly...they have no cards...only spite and it won't work anymore...
The war has meant that Iran is now using its control of the Straits as a new normal.
